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Old 07-07-2007, 05:26 PM
MrSelfDestruct MrSelfDestruct is offline
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Default 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

Villain1 is running at 20/7/1.5 seems pretty solid but not great.
Villain2 is running at 38/16/5 and is pretty donkish and raises and reraises a lot on the flop.

I checked the flop because of Villain2's aggressive betting.
Cold called the reraise because I want Villain 2 to do something stupid (like move all in). Planned on getting it on a safe turn. The absolute blank hits on the turn and Villain1 massively overbets all in. I snap call.

After looking at the hand at the end of the session I'm quite sure I should have raised the flop...

How would you play?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB Villain1 ($89.95)
Hero ($91.30)
UTG ($65.40)
UTG+1 ($19.50)
MP1 ($22.05)
MP2 ($19.50)
CO Villain2 ($60.75)
Button ($52.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO Villain2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB Villain1 completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Villain1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain2 bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain1 raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $10, Villain2 folds.

Turn: ($24.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain1 bets $79.45 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $79.45.

River: ($183.40) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $183.40
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Old 07-07-2007, 05:38 PM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

Yea, easy call on the turn... We will see 2pair and sets here often from Villain1.
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Old 07-07-2007, 05:42 PM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

I would be shocked to see 9T here from villian, esp since you said he plays solid. I would bet flop too.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:37 PM
MrSelfDestruct MrSelfDestruct is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

Ok thanks. He actually showed up with 109 and I was shocked [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

i don't know, it is two buyins limped

its not that easy of a call, but i guess you make it
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

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i don't know, it is two buyins limped

its not that easy of a call, but i guess you make it

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Yea his flop play could be consistent of having 910, but his turn overbet shove is just soo lame and wierd and I don't think a "seems solid" player, does that with the nuts there.

I don't know, maybe it is closer then I thought...
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

if this were a raised pot and he was shoving the turn for like 4 buyins, would you call without the nuts?
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:20 PM
MrSelfDestruct MrSelfDestruct is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

It actually was the overbet that made me call the bet instantly. Just couldn't imagine him doing this with 109. I also didn't see anything like that from him before.

However, I wasn't so sure if the call was right because it was almost 2 buy ins like already mentioned. I felt a bit stupid calling off almost 2 buyins drawing dead (except for a 10 for the split) [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

EDIT:
I think I could have avoided this with reraising him to something like 30 and fold to a push (as I don't think this player would be pushing here with a set,two pair or draw). This hand makes me dizzy lol
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - second nut straight in limped pot, easy call?

Easy call. You see scared sets or 2 pair afraid of all the draws almost always. There are a lot of hands where all the money goes into the pot - he just happened to have the only hand that had you beat.

It's also worth to consider that you having a 9 makes it even less likely that villain has T9.
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