.5/1- Two calldown hands

Blowup Doll · #1 04-13-2006, 07:28 PM

Did i do the right thing by calling these two hands down?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG raises, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

I hate calling down like that, but i didn't think i could raise or fold.

HouseCalls · #2 04-13-2006, 07:45 PM

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I hate calling down like that, but i didn't think i could raise or fold.

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I agree [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Tupacia · #3 04-13-2006, 07:50 PM

*Grunch*

First hand I think I fold to the flop 3-bet as we're way behind his flop 3-betting range in all likelihood, especially given the preflop action.

Second hand seems fine, though reads would be helpful - I think we may be looking at a set of 2s or 3s somewhat often.

yellowbluebus · #4 04-13-2006, 07:53 PM

With no reads, I play both hands the same way.

Buzz-cp · #5 04-13-2006, 11:39 PM

calldown is read dependent. If villain in hand 1 was very passive, we could probably fold the turn. hand2 i probably calldown against all but the most tight/obvious opponents.

Buzz

detruncate · #6 04-14-2006, 04:18 AM

Raising the flop in Hand 1 vs a semi-reasonable UTG is not a good idea. Unless he has KK/99/K9 you have at least a redraw. Raising the flop might allow him to fold a worse hand. Just call down and bet if checked to.

Hand 2 would also be easier with reads. Your line seems fine absent them.

Leobzook · #7 04-14-2006, 06:32 AM

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calldown is read dependent. If villain in hand 1 was very passive, we could probably fold the turn.

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we pick up the nut flush though

Str8Fish · #8 04-14-2006, 06:36 AM

looks good to me.

Str8Fish · #9 04-14-2006, 06:57 AM

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*Grunch*

First hand I think I fold to the flop 3-bet as we're way behind his flop 3-betting range in all likelihood, especially given the preflop action.

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Are you kidding me?
AA (3 combos) losing
AK (6 combos) tying
KK (1 combo) losing

so 6/10 that it's a split pot. Plus, we have outs as well to the AA, we have 2 outs to K's and 1.5 to the BDFD.

Investing 5.5BB in this hand calling down...

[AA](3/10)*(-5.5BB invested)+(3/10)*(7.6%win)*(10.25BB won) + [AK](6/10)*(5.13BB) + [KK](1/10)*(-5.5BB) = -1.65 + 0.23 + 3.08 - 0.55 = +1.11 EV

Easy call down.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S · #10 04-14-2006, 07:24 AM

i think you should be capping the flop or raising the turn in hand 1; chances are your splitting on the turn and freerolling the flush draw

hand 2 is fine