KK and everyone wants to see the flop...

HoldEmNewby · #1 08-23-2007, 10:38 PM

Line check, villain is a 46/8/0.68

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $52.52
BB: $70.18
UTG: $49.50
MP: $68.61
CO: $24.43
Hero (BTN): $48.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00

Flop: ($10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $6.00, SB calls $6.00, 2 folds

Turn: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10.00...

 Value bet three streets with 1/2 pot bets? Or should I be checking the turn? Against a better player I'd be more inclined to check the turn and reevaluate the river. Agree, disagree?

vixticator · #2 08-23-2007, 10:40 PM

SB appears to be a station. I'd bet too, probably a bit more. If he raises here you need to throw it away IMO.

BatsShadow · #3 08-23-2007, 10:41 PM

In the Limit-->NL forum they asked basically this same question (They asked about best line with TPTK), and Grunch said bet, bet, bet is the best line.

If you think your opponent can get away from stuff, I check the turn, or bet turn and check river if the board has too many draws.

jack492505 · #4 08-23-2007, 10:45 PM

I think you should check the turn behind if you don't want to play for stacks here. If you bet out you're getting pretty close to commiting yourself. Especially if you bet out a little more. If you bet more you'll be getting 3 to 1 to call a shove and I hate having to fold with those kind of odds, usually it means you made a mistake.

HoldEmNewby · #5 08-23-2007, 10:55 PM

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I think you should check the turn behind if you don't want to play for stacks here. If you bet out you're getting pretty close to commiting yourself. Especially if you bet out a little more. If you bet more you'll be getting 3 to 1 to call a shove and I hate having to fold with those kind of odds, usually it means you made a mistake.

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I think against an imaginative villain i'd be more inclined to check but against a station i think by not betting i'm losing value.

jerryf1914 · #6 08-23-2007, 11:06 PM

a smooth call there is a clear sign he has a 9. what else could he possibly have that a donkey would call with there? a donkey would raise you with almost anything else in that spot

HoldEmNewby · #7 08-23-2007, 11:07 PM

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a smooth call there is a clear sign he has a 9. what else could he possibly have that a donkey would call with there? a donkey would raise you with almost anything else in that spot

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So you check behind on the turn, and c/f the river?

jerryf1914 · #8 08-23-2007, 11:10 PM

i would check behind on the turn and then call a resonable bet probably

tarheeljks · #9 08-23-2007, 11:13 PM

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a smooth call there is a clear sign he has a 9. what else could he possibly have that a donkey would call with there? a donkey would raise you with almost anything else in that spot

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nope, villain is station

zethro · #10 08-23-2007, 11:14 PM

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a smooth call there is a clear sign he has a 9. what else could he possibly have that a donkey would call with there? a donkey would raise you with almost anything else in that spot

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Maybe against some opponents that is a clear sign of a nine, but against a lot of other opponents it could easily be a pocket pair or some overcards.

I would bet the turn and if he raised me then I would throw it away.