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Old 07-16-2007, 11:41 PM
dgoldsmith dgoldsmith is offline
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Default AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

Been away from poker for a while and I'm starting over. Figure I'd take $12 and start working my way up the fixed limits. Started re-reading SSHE as well.

CO's numbers were around 25/0 over 35 hands or so. Table was generally loose and passive.

Main question is with PF line. As played, how is the rest?

PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 28 BB
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:56 PM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

I raise this preflop but there it is debatable. On the turn, when he capped your 3-bet what did you put him on? I don't think I'm 3-betting this river unless I have a better read on villain.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:57 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

I'd just check call the river. When CO caps the turn he is saying that he has trip jacks beat.

Rest is good.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:07 AM
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I'd just check call the river. When CO caps the turn he is saying that he has trip jacks beat.

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Old 07-17-2007, 12:13 AM
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I raise this preflop but there it is debatable. On the turn, when he capped your 3-bet what did you put him on?

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I don't think I thought about it that specifically [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] The table in general had been playing so loose with small pair, high cards and dominated cards, I guesstimated that I was ahead.

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I don't think I'm 3-betting this river unless I have a better read on villain.

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Would you have check/called or raise/called the river?
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

Looking back in leisure, I'm thinking bet/call, but in the heat of the moment after he caps me on the turn probably just the call.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

when he caps turn I think he has JT or TT, so I am not pushing this anymore, i.e. ok show me your hand punk.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:42 AM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

Preflop is good. On the flop I'd gamble that someone will take a stab at it so go for the checkraise. This can cut down the odds the players in between face to draw out on you.

I see so many people, especially fish, overplay trips to a paired board on the turn and river and lose so much. Trips is far weaker than a set and should not be overvalued. bet/call the turn. check/call the river.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: AJo in SB - PS .02/.04

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I'd just check call the river. When CO caps the turn he is saying that he has trip jacks beat.

Rest is good.

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I play it the same. I dont see any need to raise AJo preflop from the SB against a lot of loose limpers, as you will be OOP after the flop.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:20 PM
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Looking back in leisure, I'm thinking bet/call, but in the heat of the moment after he caps me on the turn probably just the call.

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You have it backward, bet/calling a brick river into a turn cap is something people do all the time in the heat of the moment but almost always turns out to be wrong. There is no reason whatsoever to bet this river.
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