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11-01-2007, 11:31 AM
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100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
hey all...been playing mostly tourney's so I could use a line check here. Villan had been playing very few pots and had been aggressive postflop in the ones he played. I havn't played a lot of pot but have had the goods when the money went in...Is this line okay?
Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 8 players UTG: $162.30 UTG+1: $107.15 MP1: $97 MP2: $147.05 CO: $128 Hero: $127.15 SB: $56.70 BB: $89.50 Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds UTG+1 calls 2 folds CO raises to $5 Hero calls 3 folds Flop: ($12.5) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players) CO bets $9 Hero calls Turn: ($30.5) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) CO bets $19 Hero folds. Uncalled bets: $19 returned to CO Results: Final pot: $30.5 
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#4
11-01-2007, 11:47 AM
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Re: 100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
no its not ok. 3bet is like mandatory here preflop. Your hand is so under-repped on the turn I might call him again... After your flop call its a pretty easy 2barrell by a thinking opponent because the range he will most likely put you on is weighted heavily to hearts, pairs 44-88 and weak Kings.
Its possible he had it this time and you saved money playing it this way (this time) but in the long run taking a line this weak-tight will surely cost you money
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#5
11-01-2007, 11:53 AM
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Re: 100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
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no its not ok. 3bet is like mandatory here preflop. Your hand is so under-repped on the turn I might call him again... After your flop call its a pretty easy 2barrell by a thinking opponent because the range he will most likely put you on is weighted heavily to hearts, pairs 44-88 and weak Kings. Its possible he had it this time and you saved money playing it this way (this time) but in the long run taking a line this weak-tight will surely cost you money [/ QUOTE ] fair enough...so we play JJ hard here...if I 3bet and am called what is my plan for a K or A high flop?
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#6
11-01-2007, 11:56 AM
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Re: 100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
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no its not ok. 3bet is like mandatory here preflop. Your hand is so under-repped on the turn I might call him again... After your flop call its a pretty easy 2barrell by a thinking opponent because the range he will most likely put you on is weighted heavily to hearts, pairs 44-88 and weak Kings. Its possible he had it this time and you saved money playing it this way (this time) but in the long run taking a line this weak-tight will surely cost you money [/ QUOTE ] also exit...I call the turn am I calling a 3rd barrel on a blank river?
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#7
11-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: 100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
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[ QUOTE ] no its not ok. 3bet is like mandatory here preflop. Your hand is so under-repped on the turn I might call him again... After your flop call its a pretty easy 2barrell by a thinking opponent because the range he will most likely put you on is weighted heavily to hearts, pairs 44-88 and weak Kings. Its possible he had it this time and you saved money playing it this way (this time) but in the long run taking a line this weak-tight will surely cost you money [/ QUOTE ] fair enough...so we play JJ hard here...if I 3bet and am called what is my plan for a K or A high flop? [/ QUOTE ] If he calls the 3 bet preflop it changes the whole hand. Now he has to put you on JJ-AA and AKs. edit- ok the range is bigger than that, its probly more like 99-AA AJs-AKs AQo and maybe 910s of 10Js every once in a while If he bets the flop when a king hits you can call and see what happens on the turn depending on how much. He's not going to be happy about betting again with less than AK
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11-01-2007, 12:11 PM
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Re: 100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] no its not ok. 3bet is like mandatory here preflop. Your hand is so under-repped on the turn I might call him again... After your flop call its a pretty easy 2barrell by a thinking opponent because the range he will most likely put you on is weighted heavily to hearts, pairs 44-88 and weak Kings. Its possible he had it this time and you saved money playing it this way (this time) but in the long run taking a line this weak-tight will surely cost you money [/ QUOTE ] fair enough...so we play JJ hard here...if I 3bet and am called what is my plan for a K or A high flop? [/ QUOTE ] If he calls the 3 bet preflop it changes the whole hand. Now he has to put you on JJ-AA and AKs. If he bets the flop when a king hits you can call and see what happens on the turn depending on how much. He's not going to be happy about betting again with less than AK [/ QUOTE ] After you 3bet pre, he wont be leading into you too often. On a flop that brings only 1 overcard to your pair I would usually Cbet around 3/4pot and see what develops from there
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#10
11-01-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: 100 NL...JJ in position vs TAG...line check
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[ QUOTE ] no its not ok. 3bet is like mandatory here preflop. Your hand is so under-repped on the turn I might call him again... After your flop call its a pretty easy 2barrell by a thinking opponent because the range he will most likely put you on is weighted heavily to hearts, pairs 44-88 and weak Kings. Its possible he had it this time and you saved money playing it this way (this time) but in the long run taking a line this weak-tight will surely cost you money [/ QUOTE ] also exit...I call the turn am I calling a 3rd barrel on a blank river? [/ QUOTE ] tbh I dont know. I read a good post yesterday saying its usually bad to call a turn and then fold a blank river (where you're not drawing obv). But in this case it really depends on the opponent. Normally once they fire the 3rd barrell you can be fairly sure that villain is stronger than JJ.
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