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Old 09-24-2006, 04:30 PM
Mr_Blonde Mr_Blonde is offline
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Default 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

Villain is 26/11 over 400 hands, nothing spectacular.

I've seen him play some draws (some quite marginal) VERY fast, but I'm not sure he'd play a flush draw on a paired board this way.. maybe.

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BB ($378.86)
UTG ($362.10)
MP ($814.50)
CO ($1340.26)
Hero ($466.50)
SB ($542.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $59</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP folds, CO calls $1320.26 (All-In), Hero...
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Old 09-24-2006, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

I would call
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Old 09-24-2006, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

Raise preflop
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

no way i fold with the board texture here
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

That is gonna take some big balls to call, but geez, I think you should. The board texture puts lots of draws out there that would be likely in a 5 way limped hand.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

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That is gonna take some big balls to call, but geez, I think you should. The board texture puts lots of draws out there that would be likely in a 5 way limped hand.

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very tough call.
isn't the flop raise a little harsh as well? Isn't a raise to 45ish standard here?
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

Im not sure what youre afraid of here. I mean, does he play any 2 cards or not? Assuming he doesnt play trash hands like J4 theres really only 2 hands that have you beat: 22 and A4. Thats 10 combinations. As opposed to 64, 54, and 43, which make up 12 combinations. Of course, you have to worry about your kicker getting counterfieted about half the time here.

BUT

Given the chipstacks he may very well just be limping in with ne 2 cards. Thats something you would know tho. Did you see him playing ne 2 cards or not? He easily could be, in which case, youd face a double edged sword. He could have any two hearts, for 110 combinations, or he could also have 35 which is 16 combinations. Or even a pocket pair like 55 or 66. Its up to you to determine which pocket pairs he wouldnt have raised preflop with, but everyone is worth another 6 combinations, except for 77 which is only worth 3. And obviously, he could actually have a 4 or 22, but thats only 34 combinations that beat you.

In short:

Youre beating 153 hands, but losing to 34 hands. Statistically you call, given his past preformance you call, given then 1.3-1 pot odds, you gotta call. Obviously im not gonna go into your odds of winning/losing vs the different type of hands, but even if I did the 5-1 wouldnt come down to below 1.3-1.

My advice, dont play vs big aggressive big stacks.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:43 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

id probably muck this pf

flop well you beat 34, 45, 46 and you're a huge fav over raw flush draws, and you only have 110 bbs or so, so just let it ride.
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

you beat 34, 45, 46. not a lot of other 4's around, so you're basically behind A4, 22 (unlikely imo) and most likely against A3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something similiar.
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold my flopped trips?

Call, given your stack size and the fact that in a limped pot he will turn over 5h3h or Ah3h pretty frequently. If you run into A4s, so be it, but this is as likely as his turning over 5s4s, etc.
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