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10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
Just saw villain drop a buy in at another table. Otherwise no reads. Not sure how he views me. How often do you just call vs raise preflop? Also how often do you just call bet on flop? Since I know very little about this opponent is his turn push a call or a fold?
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $10/$20 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG raises to $70</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($160, 2 players) Hero checks, UTG bets $130</font>, Hero raises to $330</font>, UTG calls. Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($820, 2 players) Hero bets $600</font>, UTG raises all-in $1770</font>, Hero calls. River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4360, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $4360) Results: Final pot: $4360 [color=#]UTG showed Td As</font> [color=#]Hero showed Js Jh</font> |
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
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Since I know very little about this opponent is his turn push a call or a fold? [/ QUOTE ] If in doubt... |
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
Ok didn't mean to leave in results. Still not sure about my call. Does anyone ever fold to an relatively unknown slightly aggro opponents all in? After putting in almost $1,000 already I guess I don't see how this can be a fold unless I have a really good read. So I called based on that but kinda felt beat when he pushed.
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
you can't fold here. by not raising preflop you disguised your hand so he thinks tptk is good. I might be afraid of two pair on the river but then id ask whether he would raise 3.5x utg with 910? I might have thought set but again, does he reaise 3.5x with 66 or 33 here, the answer is no.
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
I usually would 3 bet with jj against an utg raiser but as played I have no problem with your line
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
Hero's hand is underpresented, but UTG's hand is unclear. How do we know it's not AA/KK/QQ?
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
I dont like this line because you're usually folding out the donkey with AT and when you call the turn push you end up looking at a set/overpair instead
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
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Hero's hand is underpresented, but UTG's hand is unclear. How do we know it's not AA/KK/QQ? [/ QUOTE ] I think this is exactly right and exactly how I felt when calling it. I pretty much thought I had to call at this point but I could have easily been beat. So I guess the question is is there a way a better way to play the hand where I'm more sure I'm ahead...or what lines would you have taken each street? |
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
preflop i 3 bet especially since he raised utg, on the flop i may have raised a little more to say 420 once he doesnt push the flop though your commited
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Re: 10/20 Overpair Facing Turn Push
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How do we know it's not AA/KK/QQ? [/ QUOTE ] Cuz we haven't seen the showdown yet so maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Later on we see the showdown and we know it isn't QQ+. Pretty simple. |
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