$4 180 Stars SNG

Turlock · #1 03-04-2007, 03:29 PM

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, Hero raises to t60, Button calls t60 (pot was t90), SB calls t50 (pot was t150), BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t200, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t165, Button calls t165 (pot was t365), SB calls t165 (pot was t530).

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t695, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t575, Button raises all-in t1015, SB folds, Hero calls t440 (pot was t2285).

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2725, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2725)

Results:
Final pot: t2725

This was only the 2nd hand in the tourny,and of course I was worried I was beaten on the turn but after he didn't raise me on the flop I wasn't so sure he had top pair,I thought it was more likely a semi bluff with a flush draw,as I've seen that time and time again in these low buy in donkathons.

If I could just hear a few thoughts from someone with more knowledge than me.

Thanks

Keys Myaths · #2 03-04-2007, 03:33 PM

The bet on the flop is marginal, but when you get two callers, you know you're probably beat.

Then, when you're raised on the turn, you not only know you're beat, you know you're destroyed.

Slow the hell down, especially early on.

Turlock · #3 03-04-2007, 04:27 PM

So you think this could be a spot where I don't make a continuation bet,even with a club draw on the board and 2nd pair? I tend to make continuation bets almost everytime unless the board is really scary.

Keys Myaths · #4 03-04-2007, 04:49 PM

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So you think this could be a spot where I don't make a continuation bet,even with a club draw on the board and 2nd pair? I tend to make continuation bets almost everytime unless the board is really scary.

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The c-bet is a judgment call, but with a draw out there, and with a weak, 2 outer type hand, I might find a check here and play the next hand.

The turn bet is spew, and that's what I'm trying to get across. The call of the turn raise is just disgusting.

Comrade Tom · #5 03-04-2007, 04:55 PM

It's early on, and medium pairs don't play so well at this stage. Even though everyone behind you has folded, there's a good chance the people ahead of you will still call, especially a raise to only 60. At this stage of the tourney, I only want to raise the strongest few hands, and raise them to around 100. Before the flop I'd limp 88 and hope to hit a set on the flop.

Two callers on the flop probably means you're beat, and I'd check/fold the turn.

DiscipleAA · #6 03-04-2007, 04:58 PM

I think you play a hand like 88's for set value this early in a tourney... There is no need to C-bet here against anything other then a super weak post flop field and I dont think you could have that read this early on...

Comrade - Stacks are deep enough that a raise here is still good IMO, if there isnt any money in the pot when you hit the set you will get alot less action from your opponents... make them commit chips to the pot and you will be much more likely to get paid off when you hit that set... I'm on the same page as you though as far as playing a MPP for set value early in a Tourney...

Markusgc · #7 03-04-2007, 05:05 PM

I don't usually c-bet into 2 players, but if you're gonna do it, you can probably go a little less, like 100-125. Then c/f turn w/o improvement.

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DiscipleAA · #8 03-04-2007, 05:07 PM

LOL I didnt even read the full title i just saw that SNG was capped... I know what a 4 180 is [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Edit - Fixed it thanks for pointing that out...

DiscipleAA · #9 03-04-2007, 05:13 PM

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LoL, dont worry about it I'm glad you pointed it out, I need to pay more attention before I just drop a Post... I need you guys to keep me in line from time to time [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]...

Turlock · #10 03-04-2007, 05:29 PM

Ok guys I understand now.

Thanks for your speedy help.