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Old 11-03-2007, 12:50 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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i would love to hear from our great minds here. im currently chip leader in stars $27.50 w 34 left. whats optimal play here? discuss position raising reraising . play the bully or dont put chips at risk.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:02 AM
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Bully obv. Play for the win. The play has to be redic tight at this point. GL.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:16 AM
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Bully obv. Play for the win. The play has to be redic tight at this point. GL.

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ty sherm i just used your advice calling a 2.5 rai in bb w ace5s.flop comes 34q (2 diamonds). i check he bets 24k i raise to 72k he calls uh oh. he has 85k behind so i shoved he thought then mucked.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:36 AM
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dead money central... figure out who's giving $ away moving up places... steal antes from LP and don't be afraid to resteal PF
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:47 AM
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im a railbird if your name is DMJ... i'll make a post later... but i just saw u go from 160 to 340... keep it up
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:50 AM
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ugh.... those 6's hurt... i'da mucked those PF
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:59 AM
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are you still in this? screenname?
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:37 AM
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what happened?
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:56 AM
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i made a play at a 10 hi board and guy had a 10 (he showed after he raised ai) that made me above avg stack. got down to 11 players when this hand occurred. tell me if you like this guys. no converter its pretty simple hand.
PokerStars Game #13008389131: Tournament #65238014, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (8000/16000) - 2007/11/03 - 01:49:36 (ET)
Table '65238014 21' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 4: ILUVBEER99 (259906 in chips)
Seat 5: Ragnar Dan (510732 in chips)
Seat 6: deadmoneyjon (387964 in chips)
Seat 8: Pest_Spade (207457 in chips)
Seat 9: Stushaft (393173 in chips)
ILUVBEER99: posts small blind 8000
Ragnar Dan: posts big blind 16000


*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to deadmoneyjon [6h 6s]
deadmoneyjon: raises 32000 to 48000
Pest_Spade: folds


Stushaft: raises 343573 to 391573 and is all-in
ILUVBEER99: folds
Ragnar Dan: folds

deadmoneyjon: calls 338364 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs Jh]
*** TURN *** [5d Qs Jh] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [5d Qs Jh 9h] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
deadmoneyjon: shows [6h 6s] (a pair of Sixes)
Stushaft: shows [Ah Jc] (a pair of Jacks)

i had about 10 hands prior layed down 22 after raising to an all in repop. i figured i cant avoid conflict im going to have to ship em in at some point and win a flip. was this a bad spot?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:06 AM
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i watched this happen... you were active for a few hands before this which you should be 7 handed and less...
plus u got a huge shove/steal and weren't showing hands.... and doubled up from 150 to 390... so nobody really realized what you were doing whether you had a hand or not.

i think it was your action stealing image that forced this guy to reshove AJo on you... i hate that... he could have made a smaller raise to find out if you were serious...

11th place sux and you were in 4th or 5th if i remember correctly and folding left you in 6.

the guy hadn't really tried to do anything in the face of larceny so you have to give him credit for a hand and eat the 48k loss... i probably would have rised to something different (smaller or bigger) than your other raises to make him wonder what was going on when you bet smaller than your auto 3 bet..

i'da folded (and showed... which i haven't figured out how to do on stars yet) to the reshove by the only guy that had you covered.... and in first place in the tourney (ideally you only stack off for your tourney life w/ AA or KK... like they say in books right?) that guy wasn't very active at all to my memory. the table was letting you take money and everyone was trying to get up the ladder. a little more patience and you make like $2000 more easily. they would have let you keep stealing. you would have had 2 more 50 k steals in you before you were under 10 m also...

all in all, i think your frequency of pots played is what led up to this marginal call in his spot. 1st was 7600, and i think you pulled 400??? plus i like your fold equity in this spot... cuz 2k for 5th is like 80 more 20 dollar tourneys....
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