raymer's crippling hand from '05 vs. canter

[mle]

in looking back on this hand, it's seems amazing that raymer could play this so confidently on the turn...there were tons of hands that could beat him in that spot (incl. one card straight).

how did he know he was good????


p.s.- where would he have stood in chips if he had won the hand?

[n1nj4.br]

could u say how the hand was? would help missinformed donkeys like me =D

[roflsnax]

canter limps, calls pf large pf raise (out of pos i think) with QJ

canter has absolutely nothing the entire way and just keeps calling down raymer with Q high and makes runner runner flush

[nuclear500]

Not 100% accurate.

Canter called the all-in on the turn with just the flush draw.

Okay okay, he "called him down" - but that implies no all in.

[roflsnax]

my memory isnt spot on about it, what i remember pretty clearly from the hand is the fact kanter called Q high in 2 spots

[capone0]

I'm pretty sure Canter either reraises or c/r the turn or atleast bets and committs a lot of chips to the pot.

[DoubleTwentyOne]

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in looking back on this hand, it's seems amazing that raymer could play this so confidently on the turn...there were tons of hands that could beat him in that spot (incl. one card straight).

how did he know he was good????


p.s.- where would he have stood in chips if he had won the hand?

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This is pretty much how the hand went down.

Raymer raise with KK PF, Kanter calls.

Flop comes 3 low connectors, Raymer bets, Kanter calls. (Kanter was basically trying to float one off on Raymer, and if Raymer didn't have a big pair, he could take it away later, but unfortunately for Kanter, Raymer does have a big pair and he's not going anywhere)

Turn completes a 1 card straight, Raymer blocks for about 1/2 pot, Kanter pops him big, Raymer decided that Kanter doesn't have what he's trying to represent (set, straight...) mainly because Kanter (like most Lagtards) has a propensity to fastplay junk/weak hands/air and slowplay monsters.
If you watched any of the hands Kanter was involved in during the final table, you'll notice this trend. He slowplayed the [censored] out of that Kings full hand against Black's Ace-Mystery Card hand. While pulling a bet-3-bet-5-bet-all in with K5 on a KT7 board against the tightest player at the table (Tex Barch) when it was clear he was drawing dead. Raymer must have picked up on this tendency to decide there was no way Kanter would fastplay a monster against his KK and blow him off the hand.
Kanter's most likely range right there must have been some sort of combination draw, or air. Either pair/w a draw or
nut flush draw. Either way he decided he was enough of a favorite with 1 card to come to shove.
When he did shove Kanter was getting about a little over 3 to 1 on his money and at that point was only making a slight mathematical mistake by calling.

[uter]

Kanter was one of many of his type -
donktard who felt like going after raymer for the hell of it, cuz when ur mind is as blank as his, u have to give yourself something to do, and going after the world champ seemed like fun.

with the amount of people similar to kanter in the event, its virtually mathematically impossible that one or 2 of them wouldnt make the final table.
that's what people dont understand - if it hadnt been kanter it would've been another like him. there were too many of them for them ALL to be eliminated early.

how did he get that many chips? obv by winning several large pots with the worst hand.
again, if nobody as bad as kanter was winning several pots as a dog during this tourny, THAT would have been a huge mathematical anomoly/impossibility.

and why does kanter still have chips going into day 3?
obv because several people as stupid as him have tried to stupidly bluff him, he of course retardedly calls a ton of chips with a mediocre hand, but is accidentally correct to do so against these other morons.
welcome to the wonderful new donkland of poker.