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Old 06-30-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Standard TPTK situation

Standard TPTK spot, OOP, on a dry-ish board facing aggression. Villain is Makke on PS - I have no read on him (first session with him)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($123.30)
BB ($27.20)
UTG ($63.45)
Hero ($133.30)
CO ($101)
Button ($202.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $25</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($62.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $40</font>

If I am going to fold here, should I just fold the flop? Do we expect villain to check behind here often on the turn?

Does anyone want to get it in against an unknown here?

FWIW I am running ~19/17 at this table, but he started the session ~20 hands ago so reads are basically zero on both ends.

thanks,
catalyst
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

i would very often bet fold the turn instead of checking it
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

bet smaller on flop

fold to the reraise ainec
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

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i would very often bet fold the turn instead of checking it

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This line looks good, but whats your plan on the river if VILLAIN flat calls, c/f? c/c?
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

Are we betting 1/2 pot on turn?
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

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i would very often bet fold the turn instead of checking it

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This line looks good, but whats your plan on the river if VILLAIN flat calls, c/f? c/c?

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probably check call a blocker and check fold to a real bet
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

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Are we betting 1/2 pot on turn?

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i bet $40, mostly only due to the flopped straight draws and worse kickers

although folding the flop is probably not bad, but it seems a little weak.... but the board may call for it... it's pretty close imo
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:56 PM
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i would very often bet fold the turn instead of checking it

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This line looks good, but whats your plan on the river if VILLAIN flat calls, c/f? c/c?

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probably check call a blocker and check fold to a real bet

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Effective stacks on river will be about $30 if the turn goes c/c (assuming a 1/2 pot turn bet).
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:56 PM
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Are we betting 1/2 pot on turn?

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i bet $40, mostly only due to the flopped straight draws and worse kickers

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And you fold to a push???
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Standard TPTK situation

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Are we betting 1/2 pot on turn?

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i bet $40, mostly only due to the flopped straight draws and worse kickers

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And you fold to a push???

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crap, idk, i'm used to 200nl stacks sizes.... how'd the pot get so big so quick? - lol

given the super awkwardness of turn, and basically having to get it ai, i would fold the flop
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