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Old 07-30-2007, 09:18 AM
klay klay is offline
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Default KQo SB vs BU

I 3bet him a 5 times in the last 10 orbits. What to do preflop/flop/turn/river


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BU ($625) (20/16/3.84/25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BU raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>.

Flop: ($48) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($108) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80.

River: ($268) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets $180</font>, Hero calls $180.

Final Pot: $628.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

I think you played it fine. However, on the flop I like b3b or c/r more.

b3b &gt; c/r &gt; c/c
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:00 AM
Tumez Tumez is offline
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

I like how you played it till the river. I would probably fold the river, you are beating only KJ and chopping with KQ. His not probaly 3 barreling this flop.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

3bet again. By calling preflop and deciding to call down on a board like this, you put yourself in a reverse implied odds situation on the river. Another alternative is to lead the turn.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

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I think you played it fine. However, on the flop I like b3b or c/r more.

b3b &gt; c/r &gt; c/c

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Why the hell we would like c/r or bet/3-bet this flop?
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:55 AM
Grunch Grunch is offline
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

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I think you played it fine. However, on the flop I like b3b or c/r more.

b3b &gt; c/r &gt; c/c

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Why the hell we would like c/r or bet/3-bet this flop?

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Because we like to turn our hand in to a bluff?
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:08 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

Eugh the advice in this thread is horrible. Preflop is meh, its all flow/meta dependent. Postflop is fine, I might find a fold on the river, but he seems aggro soo call looks fine.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: KQo SB vs BU

preflop you repop him again, this is 3 handed and you've been 3 betting him lots, he's now calling with dominated hands and pps that only continue when they flop sets.

flop, you check raise the flop, and no this does not turn your hand into a bluff, this guy has capable and aggressive stats and as said you've been aggressive against him. he's not expecting AK QK 88 here, he's thinking flush draw and there's no chance he'll just drop KJ KT K9, so they overcome AK AA KK 88 K8, that's before the cases of, he probably shoves a flush draw, probably calls with QQ JJ TT 99, and unlikely but maybe resteal with something. Then on top of that you have the advantage it makes the hand a lot easier to play, meaning he never takes the pot away from you when you call here and he makes life difficult for you.

turn, play the same.

river, the situation now sucks, so there's that advantage of playing it the other way again, as his range is probably close to perfect against your hand. he could still be vb KJ but with AK KT AA KK TT being possible and now unlikely 3 barrel esp. w the bet sizes i think you have to fold even though you've underrepped your hand.
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