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Old 10-21-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default $50 KK rr pot vs. regular

Opponent is "convariance" for people that know him and I've got him running around 13/11/9.8 over 1k+ hands. I'm really unhappy with my flop play here. I want to get it in but I don't think this is the best way. fwiw he's raising a 2%pfr regular preflop. Alternatives after the way preflop played out?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($32.35)
UTG ($23.60)
UTG+1 ($46)
MP1 ($66.55)
MP2 ($30)
CO ($43)
Button ($78.30)
Hero ($67)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7.5</font>, Hero calls $7.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($18.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $59.5</font>

I'm thinking lead small/3bet is the best line for value.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: $50 KK rr pot vs. regular

C/R small lets you at least get value out of the times he has AK, so I'd do that. Folding KK on this board to a 3bet shove with the preflop coldcall just about never.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: $50 KK rr pot vs. regular

I'm never ever folding here.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: $50 KK rr pot vs. regular

lead 5-8 3bet shove
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:34 AM
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Bet-3bet would be the way I'd play it.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:00 AM
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I would raise preflop. And bet the flop.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: $50 KK rr pot vs. regular

I'd make the bet he did and 3bet AI. I think your hand is decently disguised enough that we can lead this flop against such an aggressive opponent. This will get more value than c/r.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: $50 KK rr pot vs. regular

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I would raise preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]I think that is a pretty big mistake. Sure it can save your stack if he pushes because he's only 5 betting AA but it gets nowhere near as much value as calling and c/r or lead small/3 bet. Even when he does have AA he's probably just calling anyways and I'd much rather disguise my hand than turn it face up.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:46 PM
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I would raise preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]I think that is a pretty big mistake. Sure it can save your stack if he pushes because he's only 5 betting AA but it gets nowhere near as much value as calling and c/r or lead small/3 bet. Even when he does have AA he's probably just calling anyways and I'd much rather disguise my hand than turn it face up.

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Especially against someone you see as a regular with solid stats, 4betting is a mistake. FWIW I don't 4bet much at all unless I'm positive the opponent will stack off preflop quite light.
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