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Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
I'm sitting 5-10NL at the Borgata. I have ~2000 in 8th position, button has about the same, 5th position has about 1000. I limp w/ QdJd, as do 3 others. Flop is KdTd5c. 5th checks, I bet 35, button makes it 150, 5th makes it 500. The key to this is that I have really strong reads on both, and have called out their hands to the kicker consistently all night. I put 5th on KT, button on 55 (I was exactly right). Question is, should I push at this point? First, I may get 2 folds (button is pretty tight), and if not, I still think I like my hand. Still, many feel that pushing a draw knowing you'll probably get a call is bad. Thoughts?
RESULTS I push, 2 calls (how does KT call??), brick, brick, 55 thinks he's a god of poker, I spend the rest of night making my money back and second guessing myself. |
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Re: Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
this is a joke right?
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Re: Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
a straight flush draw is not a dog to a set [censored]
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Re: Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
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a straight flush draw is not a dog to a set [censored] [/ QUOTE ] At least get the math right if you want to be insulting; otherwise there's no reason not to ban you. A straight flush draw is a significant dog to a set. In THIS hand, however, because there are two other made hands coming along, the straight flush draw is the favorite. |
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Re: Wrong Vince
yes it is. the str8 flush draw is about even $ to make either a str8 or a flush by the river. of course he only has 2 outs to the str8flush. of the times he makes only the str8 OR the flush he looses when the set (which is 3.8 to 1 to become a full house by the river) gets there and wins. in those cases the str8 or the flush loses. this type of draw is almost a 3 to 2 dog to the set. don't call people names, especially when giving incorrect info.
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Re: Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
pokenum -h qd jd - ks ts - 5h 5c -- kd td 5s
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing 5s Kd Td cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV Qd Jd 396 43.85 507 56.15 0 0.00 0.439 Ks Ts 195 21.59 708 78.41 0 0.00 0.216 5c 5h 312 34.55 591 65.45 0 0.00 0.346 LOL at you thinking they were gonna fold, but no worries... |
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Re: incorrect call
he thought that kt would make a correct decision and fold. therefore, if he knew he was up against a set of 5s, as he said he expected, he has a negitive expectation here. there is not enough money in the pot to make this a push, it was a fold. QJs vs a set of 5's on a board of KsTs5 is a dog.
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Re: incorrect call
I am thinking about creating a new high stakes forum. Who cares to join me.
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Re: Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
El Diablo,
you were right. |
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Re: Calling monster over-bet with draw (5/10NL)
pot and re-pot the pot.
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