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Old 10-05-2007, 09:00 AM
skibbel skibbel is offline
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Default NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($166.50)
SB ($101.90)
Hero ($98.25)
UTG ($123.70)
MP ($153.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($20.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, Button calls $18.

Is it ok to c/r an unkown on this board? c/c, c/r is usually a monsterline isn't it? Good spot to semibluff?
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:31 AM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

c/r is better thatn c/c.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:19 AM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

What was the plan on the turn. c/c or c/r. You have a ton of draws on the turn and a c/r would be pretty nasty.

Thoughts?

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Old 10-05-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

c/r was the plan
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:39 AM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

I'm not sure what is more ev; c/c or c/r?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

I'm not sure c/r reps a monster here.. if villain's decent he'd see it as a bluff. He's probably not folding to your turn c/r.

Don't post the river result in the OP, because knowing that you hit the flush would confuse people's thoughts on the turn.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

I would rather just make a 3/4 - psb on the turn. Winning the pot there is fine. Also, you're building the pot for when you hit your flush or straight. If he raises, then call if you have odds, fold if you don't.

That said, I don't think going for a c/r is bad, I'd just rather take the other line most of the time.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:37 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

Typically, people who fire two barrels have something they like. try to focus on bluffing people who don't have something they like.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

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Typically, people who fire two barrels have something they like. try to focus on bluffing people who don't have something they like.

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Understood, and that makes sense, but do you feel that way after Villain has open raised from button and made a standard cb?
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Old 10-05-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: NL100SH FD+Gut going for a c/r at the turn vs unkown

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try to focus on bluffing people who don't have something they like.

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You're talking about the hand, if a c/r is a stone cold bluff, but i got great Equity vs his Range, it should be something about ~40%.

Even vs a donk i have some FE, and i don't know if my K outs are clean, somethimes i have 3 additional J outs (vs JT, A9,TT), and i might get bluffed off the river. So i don't have to make a tought decision when i hit my K.
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