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do i fire or give up?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB (t2925) UTG (t7160) UTG+1 (t4160) MP1 (t3665) MP2 (t2640) CO (t4610) Button (t3145) Hero (t2470) Preflop: Hero is SB with , . [color=#666666]6 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t450</font>, BB calls t300. Flop: (t900) , , [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font> Hero ? |
#2
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Re: do i fire or give up?
Horrible situation, i c/f.
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#3
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Re: do i fire or give up?
Here are your 3 options pf:
1) Raise to 400 which gives u some wiggle room to fold somewhere 2) Go and go, raise to 700 and shove any flop 3) Shove I think anything else makes playing 33 oop awkard. As played that almost never hits villain. Bet 500 and fold to a raise. |
#4
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Re: do i fire or give up?
Bleh!!! I know I bet here,but I dunno if there's any right/wrong answer. Guess he could have(almost) any two,think you actually might be ahead here a fair amount of time,of course,with the stacsizes this is just so tricky...
I'm a betting fool,so I bet....and pray! |
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Re: do i fire or give up?
I saw 3 possible preflop lines listed above...I'd definitely add limp/shove as a possibility, just because raise/folding is horrid & raise/calling just seems a bit meh. If he checks after you complete just play poker postflop.
This flop & in fact nearly all flops not containing a 3 are horrid to play. The problem is you have the best hand ~65% of the time, but you're hand will almost never win a showdown. So all you can really do is turn it into a bluff with a profitable, but not that profitable cbet. I wouldn't be surprised if your expectation after raising 450 & getting called is significantly less that +450 chips back over a zillion trials. This flop is fairly typical, you can't do much except b/f {bluffing, though with the best hand if he folds} or c/f. Does he fold enough of the time to a bet? Probably. Actually thinking as I write you can c/f & expect to have some decent equity as he may check behind worse. Reads are kinda helpful, you can try to check this down against some opponents even. You can check & profitably fire a lot of turn cards if he checks behind. So whilst I write this I've changed my mind & reckon that b/f is +EV but c/f is more +EV. But as this sucks I prefer the LRRAI preflop. |
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Re: do i fire or give up?
What you guys think of a c/r in this situation. That imitates a lot of strength, and if he leads with a standard bet of around 1/2 the pot he won't be committed or anything. This flop most probably missed him and I think stack sizes are perfect for this. What do you guys think?
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Re: do i fire or give up?
I don't like it bc we will be putting a lot of chips at risk w a very marginal holding.Yeah,it shows strength,but what do we do if he calls? I think leading out will accomplish more w less risk. If he folds,great,if not we are pretty much done. If I check here it's w the intention of folding to any bet
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Re: do i fire or give up?
[ QUOTE ]
What you guys think of a c/r in this situation. That imitates a lot of strength, and if he leads with a standard bet of around 1/2 the pot he won't be committed or anything. This flop most probably missed him and I think stack sizes are perfect for this. What do you guys think? [/ QUOTE ] What better hands is he bet/folding? |
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Re: do i fire or give up?
If the plan is to c/f, we might as well just complete pf. And save the chips.
If you raised I think you have to bet fold. |
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Re: do i fire or give up?
I agree that you have to b/f here. I mean I know we're gonna be left with [censored] for chips if we bet then have to fold, but with a T high flop we have to take a shot. Also, I think a limp/shove pf would be super sexy.
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