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Old 04-02-2007, 02:27 PM
urbanati urbanati is offline
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Default QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

Villain is 36/14/4.5, flop caller is 35/7/1.2.
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
urbanati: $201.20
CO: $158.15
Button: $239.40
SB: $102.00
BB: $135.45

Pre-flop: (5 players) urbanati is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">urbanati raises to $8</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($25, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $16</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $50</font>, urbanati...
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:36 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

I don't like a call, since it begs the CO to come along for the ride. I don't think that worse hands that u dominate call a push.

I'd fold.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

You can't call because CO will come along and leave you with an impossible turn, and you can't push because the only thing that will happen there is getting called by a better hand, so you have to fold.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:41 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

BB's line is going to be a smaller PP, 5x, str8, or FD more often than a 7. Call and re-evaluate on the turn.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:42 PM
urbanati urbanati is offline
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

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I don't like a call, since it begs the CO to come along for the ride. I don't think that worse hands that u dominate call a push.

I'd fold.

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Even for 65BB?
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:47 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

Both players are short.

This is pretty read dependant. Some players always slowplay paired boards with trips, and always fastplay with a bad overpair, while others are the other way around.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

Since they are short, there are players I would push against if I had them marked as big donks, but they are a minority of villains. You'll know who those players are when you face them, otherwise fold.
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

My default line is to fold. However, better reads might make this a push.
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ raised 3-way on drawy paired board...

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you can't push because the only thing that will happen there is getting called by a better hand, so you have to fold.


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I don't think this is true at all.
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