ugly river

[TheWunderkind]

I have KK in BB

UTG who i dont have reads on raises and calls

Flop is 688 he c/c

Turn is an 8 he c/c

River is an A urgh

i think i can b/f right?

[danzasmack]

What calls the bet that didn't raise the turn? All PP's are boats on the turn. He could have JT here which isn't calling the river.

Check/call. If he checks back he most likely wasn't calling anyway.

[gehrig]

yes

if u check it should be to fold

[gehrig]

danzasmack he either has a pair or he has ace high ccing is really bad

[danzasmack]

What is the value in betting? How come he can't call 2 streets with Qhi/Ki/Jhi? We heard nothing from a pair on another street.

edit: i think this is like the easiest spot to think i'm inducing a bluff with a check and the ace is the only card i could see him bluffing

i bet/fold QQ on a K river (or similar hands ie 99 on a Q/J river) but the ace is a different story IMO

[gehrig]

dude he doesnt have qt

if u dont think theres value in betting then u should cf

[danzasmack]

So you think this guy raises a PP UTG but doesn't put more money in that board with it? because that's the only hand betting gets value from.

[sethypooh21]

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dude he doesnt have qt

if u dont think theres value in betting then u should cf

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????

I think this is actually close between c/c and b/c (I'm never folding here), against most I probably close my eyes and bet...