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Old 10-29-2007, 06:09 PM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

Villain is 37/12 over a small sample. I'm not long at the table and haven't been 3 betting light. He's not showing too much strength, I think on the river i can represent AK, and get him to fold out a lot of his range, which i think includes a lot of random pairs and draws. Given that he appears donkish, is this bad?

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BB: $252
UTG: $216.25
Hero (BTN): $259.38
SB: $200

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $17

Flop: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $38</font>, UTG calls $38

Turn: ($127) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($127) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $85</font>
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

Checking turn/Betting river rarely works well as a bluff. I think it would be better against a tighter player. It's certainly not bad, just not sure it works too often.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

looks fine
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

it looks like a good spot, although vs. a villain like this, if he folded you probably had the best hand
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

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Checking turn/Betting river rarely works well as a bluff. I think it would be better against a tighter player. It's certainly not bad, just not sure it works too often.

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Isn't this the exact line i'd take with AK?
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

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Checking turn/Betting river rarely works well as a bluff. I think it would be better against a tighter player. It's certainly not bad, just not sure it works too often.

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Isn't this the exact line i'd take with AK?

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Yes. The correct question is, who cares? You're playing a donk that looks like a station.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

After a preflop three bet, donkeys always put you on AK, until such time as they can no longer beat AK then they put you on 22.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:34 PM
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After a preflop three bet, donkeys always put you on AK, until such time as they can no longer beat AK then they put you on 22.

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QTF
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

it seems like he enjoys calling
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: I bluff the river in a 3 bet pot

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Checking turn/Betting river rarely works well as a bluff. I think it would be better against a tighter player. It's certainly not bad, just not sure it works too often.

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Isn't this the exact line i'd take with AK?

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Ofcourse it is...this doesn't mean this guy is folding a Q or JJ or has AK himself.

Look, here's the thing. Bad players think like this, "The King could have hit him, but I have a pair, I call." Think about it realistically for a second. Look at your range on the river on a board like that. You either have exactly a King or nothing at all. Why shouldn't he call?

It really depends what kind of bad player you're against.
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