3/6, flopped the nuts and things keep going downhill after that

[ycjason]

villian is a somewhat passive player, stats 21/7/1.5 over 380 hands, my own image is 20/18/3 over 60 hands or so, I have raised and folded to 3 bet a few time, and 3 bet a few times myself, nothing really out of line though.

about 20 hands ago, I played this hand with him
Poker Stars, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $625
UTG: $595.15
MP: $1,082.75
Hero (CO): $593
BTN: $690.10
SB: $303

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BTN calls $24, SB folds, BB calls $18

Flop: ($75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $48</font>, BTN calls $48, BB folds

Turn: ($171) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $132</font>, BTN calls $132

River: ($435) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: $435 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fives) and LOST (-$204 NET)
BTN showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Queens) and WON $432 (+$228 NET)


Please comment on all streets
Poker Stars, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $889
UTG: $416.70
CO: $1,072.80
Hero (BTN): $728.70
SB: $868.15

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $15, BB folds

Flop: ($42) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, SB calls $30

Turn: ($102) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $84</font>, SB calls $84

River: ($270) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $146</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $736.15 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

[HERE_2_gamble_]

after seeing the first hand, this is a v easy fold.
think you see a boat alot.

[AsydRayne]

If the player is as passive as you say, I think you are missing value in hand one by checking the river.

I think hand 2 is a clear fold although it is hard to make myself do it in the heat of the moment.

[danjohncochane]

Not sure why you check river in Hand 1 but w/e.

This is a very easy fold.

[Praetor]

river check in #1 sucks badly

[Pasterbator]

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river check in #1 sucks baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadly

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fold river 2.

[ycjason]

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river check in #1 sucks badly

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for hand 1, I would think that I only miss some value from TJ/JQ, (I doubt he would flat call PF and then so many times AF with Ks/As), but he could have a higher set quite often here I think. Also I should add that I didn't know he was that passive at the time hand 1 was played, I was thinking c/c might win some money from a missed flush draw

[ycjason]

by the way, bet size are pretty standard in both hands?

[AAismyfriend]

Please bet the river in hand 1, it's not close. Am I crazy for wanting to check the river vs this guy in hand 2 given the other hand? Either way, fold fast to the shove. I think betting the river in hand 2 is wayyyyyy thinner than betting in hand 1 fwiw.

[fees]

bet river hand 1.. really easy fold?