No bets til 5th street Stud/8

[Brocktoon]

HORSE - 7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (2.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks

5th Street - (1.40 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___
Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___????

At this point my hand is decent but the pot is ridiculously small and I'm almost definitely losing for high and drawing at a low with 2 players behind me.

[SweetLuckyMe]

Bet 4th. Raise 5th.

You may not think so, but you have the best hand.
Play around on www.twodimes.net/poker and you'll begin to better understand the concept of pot equity.

Also, seriously consider how the dead cards and the actions of your opponents tell a story. You're in great shape in this hand.

[Brocktoon]

Bet 4th into an A2 and A3 with 3 low cards and a tiny pair?

[SweetLuckyMe]

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Bet 4th into an A2 and A3 with 3 low cards and a tiny pair?

[/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. What can they have based upon their actions thus far in the hand? 3 aces are showing and nobody raised on 3rd - does anyone have a pair of aces? The first couple of aces limped in - if they had Ace/low/low would they not have raised 3rd? Of course they would have. So, you're very likely against crap like 2Q-A. There is nothing they caught on 4th that puts them ahead of you in pot equity. You only need 25%+ equity to make a bet correct and you have well more than that. On 5th you're still in good shape.

[Alchemist]

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Bet 4th into an A2 and A3 with 3 low cards and a tiny pair?

[/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. What can they have based upon their actions thus far in the hand? 3 aces are showing and nobody raised on 3rd - does anyone have a pair of aces? The first couple of aces limped in - if they had Ace/low/low would they not have raised 3rd? Of course they would have.

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I strongly disagree. These games generally aren't very aggressive especially on the early streets. Right or wrong, people love to limp and get in cheap. Seats 1 and 2 could very easily have two babies down--73, 64, whatever. He's also the bring-in, are his opponents going to give him much credit for anything, esp with 3 clubs being dead? Seats 1 and 2 are definitely calling and Hero is playing catch up IMO. If they check behind, great. I'll gladly take a free card and re-evaluate on 5th.

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So, you're very likely against crap like 2Q-A. There is nothing they caught on 4th that puts them ahead of you in pot equity. You only need 25%+ equity to make a bet correct and you have well more than that. On 5th you're still in good shape.

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[Andy B]

You played third very well. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Fourth is definitely a check. One of your Treys is gone, and there are two very strong boards behind you. I'd call on fifth. Raising would be reasonable. I wouldn't particularly fear the low boards behind you now, as they both checked on fourth. And what the hell can AQ9 have made, anyway?

[templar999]

Betting on 4th against those boards seems suicidal to me. You're in awful shape if one player has a wired pair below 8's and the other has a low draw.

[Brocktoon]

How bad is folding 5th?

[blumpkin]

Check 4th, raise 5th. Folding wouldn't be too bad since the pot is so small. But his bet is retarded and I'd just want to punish him for it.

[Andy B]

I think it would be pretty bad. You think that Nine hit him?