Q5 co 5bb

[The blackjacker]

7 players
blinds: 120/240

[SB] peti-bo (1280)
[BB] steinarnagy (2315)
[1] Lluthian (4045)
[2] PeteMase (185)
[3] PORSCHE A1 (1540)
[4] Hero (1575)
[b]Fixxx3r (2560)

Hero :Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] :5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Initial Pot: 360

all fold

Hero??


Seems to be a bit ev- (-0.4) or +-0 dependent on their ranges. I think -0.4 is with a little to loose ranges.
However if the blinds hit you again, you loose alot of equity it seems. From 13% of the pricepool to 10.3% and even worse if they go up before that.

Would you push? And how do you calculate these future events. I mean the likelyhood to get some premium cards in the next couple of hands isn't probably that great. And if you just can think of the folding ICM in the same scale or whatever as the push/fold per hand ICM, then it should be an easy push since you otherwise loose 13-10.3= 2,7 in ev, wich is really bad obviously. so 0.4 is much better.

That might be way of and bad thinking so I hope we can straight that out.

[vers]

Looks like a pretty thin push here. Unless button and blinds are all super tight, it looks like a negative ev push. I just muck and hope to pick up something better in the next rotation.

[The blackjacker]

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Looks like a pretty thin push here. Unless button and blinds are all super tight, it looks like a negative ev push. I just muck and hope to pick up something better in the next rotation.

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Yes it's definately not a good push according to sng powertools. But (and I can be wrong here) I guess it just calculates folding =0 ev.
But as I tried to calculate the ICM by winning blinds and folding, folding shouldn't be zero equity if let's say we post blinds in the next round.

And in this case while blinds so high we loose alot of ev if we let the blinds hit us, so I wonder if you just can calculate the pushing ev in sng powertools and pretend folding is ev=0

Basically it comes down to that pushing is bad and folding is bad.. so which one is worse.