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Old 03-18-2007, 01:24 PM
pfapfap pfapfap is offline
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Default Help a Newbie with some Hands....

Hiya, I've been studying a bit of tournament play, but can't seem to reliably cash. A couple of weeks ago I turned a $6 satellite into $1200, so now I have some flexibility and the bankroll to try more "good" play rather than "please I hope I cash" play, and have moved from 2-table S&Gs to mostly 90-player doublestack S&Gs (all Full Tilt). Anyway, I'd like some feedback on some typical situations for me, four hands taken from various tournaments. Obviously results can be inferred, but try to think past that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks in advance for any feedback and advice!


*** HAND 1 ***

Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3750
UTG+1: $6470
MP1: $3000
MP2: $4335
MP3: $1770
CO: $2955
Button: $3455
SB: $2075
Hero: $2505

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $140</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($300, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $150</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $500</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1300, 2 players)

Action?


*** HAND 2 ***

Blinds: t60/t120
8 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6335
Hero: t1755
MP1: t6720
MP2: t3365
CO: t4640
Button: t10372
SB: t7268
BB: t2825

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t400</font>, 3 folds, Button calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t580)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t980, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t500</font>, Button calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1480)</font>.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1980, 2 players)

Action?


*** HAND 3 ***

Blinds: $50/$100
9 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2250
Hero: $5190
MP1: $2785
MP2: $6180
MP3: $4765
CO: $3785
Button: $9330
SB: $9165
BB: $2850

Villain in this hand had been playing somewhat weird, limping or calling with big hands.

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $400</font>, 3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1350, 3 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $900</font>, CO calls, UTG folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3150, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3150, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1100</font>

Action?


*** HAND 4 ***

Blinds: t250/t500
(Ante: t50)
8 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: t28205
UTG+1: t5215
MP1: t23715
MP2: t4225
CO: t17275
Hero: t5895
SB: t9700
BB: t14340

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1150)</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1650)</font>, 2 folds,

MP1 was limping into practically every pot, usually folding to pressure or calling with suspect holdings. Action?
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:40 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

What buy-in was this?

Hand1: I probably wouldn't have gotten fancy preflop here: Just repop him big. I'd make it something like t450. As played , I like the CR on the flop. Push the turn.

Hand2: The blinds are big enough at this point to just raise 3bbs. Make it t360 preflop. Especially considering your stack, you should me making a very small raise here. I even think t300 would be OK given your stack size. As played, tough spot on the flop. You have created a huge pot, and a c-bet will commit you. Either check/fold or CRAI. I think I would just check/fold the turn, and go into push/fold mode.

Hand3: Again you made it too much preflop. Raise to t300 here. Flop is fine. We are going to the felt here, I hope you understand that. If CO is the kind of player to play back at you, then I love the turn check. If he isn't just bet again. I think I would have bet the river here. As played, just call. I don't think a bet is worth it, because his bet is often a retarded bluff.

Hand4: The stacks of the limpers are too big to push here. They will look you up a lot. Wait a couple of hands, and wait for first in vigorish and a decent hand.
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

il read one at a time and reply to each one if needed.
hand 1 : i like the flat call i like the check raise . i dont like that q on the turn. see qq was one of the hands i feared. now ill check call turn and river. the river i may fold if i really feel im beat . if he checks the turn i value bet the river
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Old 03-18-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

hand 2 : w your stack two choices: shove or check fold flip a coin and go with it. i think you are not ahead of much here
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Old 03-18-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

hand 1. Flat call preflop is OK, but so is reraising. Push the turn.

hand 2. Given stack sizes, raise 2-2.5xBB preflop. As played, you re pot committed, so bet more on flop.

hand 3. Preflop and flop are standard. You could bet the turn. Check isn't terrible. As played, close between pushing and calling on the river.

hand 4. Push is good. If you get called, you may not be in bad shape and you have good pot odds. I would be a little concerned that the first limper was UTG.
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Old 03-18-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

Hand 1: Bet about 800 or 900 and get the rest in on river. The pot has got way too big relative to your stack to possibly get away from this. If he can beat AA then you're going broke.

Hand 2: I'm giving up here and check-folding. You don't have enough chips to put pressure on the button and there's no way he's going to believe that 8 helped you if you push.

Hand 3: Insta-call

Hand 4: I can fold this - a limp costs a significant chunk of your chips and you have trash. Raising dangerous with the UTG limper.
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

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Hand 1: Bet about 800 or 900 and get the rest in on river. The pot has got way too big relative to your stack to possibly get away from this. If he can beat AA then you're going broke.

Hand 2: I'm giving up here and check-folding. You don't have enough chips to put pressure on the button and there's no way he's going to believe that 8 helped you if you push.

Hand 3: Insta-call

Hand 4: I can fold this - a limp costs a significant chunk of your chips and you have trash. Raising dangerous with the UTG limper.

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exactly my thoughts
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

hand 3 i love the turn check you have induced a bluff i think. call . a raise prob only gets called if beat
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

Hand 1 you should shove, tho you really need to repop AA preflop in a low buy in tournament.

Hand 2 I prefer a fold preflop w/ your stack. On the flop you need to shove w/ stacks this shallow.

Hand 3 bet the turn most of the time, tho checking is ok sometimes. Def prefer betting the river tho, as he is very likely to check behind w/ a weaker ace or smaller pair. As played, very easy call.

Last hand, shove.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Help a Newbie with some Hands....

hand 4 fold bc the utg has a ton of chips and can easily look you up. if he had say 12g then i like it bc he may say let me find a better spot
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