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Hero folds?
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks. Turn: (4.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls. River: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds. Final Pot: 12.25 BB The guy who CR me on the river is known to me as a wild player, however, I also saw that he can be tricky at some stages, especially turn and river. On the other hand, the player that bet the river is known for his straightforward play, he bets when he hits, and check-folds when he misses. I am interested in River play the most. On the other hand, if I made some mistakes please say so. |
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Re: Hero folds?
Hero bets the flop.
As played, hero raises the turn and folds to a 3-bet. On the river hero calls, given your reads. |
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Re: Hero folds?
bet the flop.
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Re: Hero folds?
Bet the flop.
I like advice to raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. The only likely hands that 3-bet here are a King or a better Ace. As played call the river. You'll be best way more than the 8% you need to make this +EV. |
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Re: Hero folds?
raisefolding the turn is horrible
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Re: Hero folds?
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raisefolding the turn is horrible [/ QUOTE ]Put villain on a hand |
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Re: Hero folds?
i didn't say we're not beat the majority of the time, i said raisefolding the turn is horrible
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Re: Hero folds?
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raisefolding the turn is horrible [/ QUOTE ] Xhad's analysis is pretty baller. |
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Re: Hero folds?
chking behind that specific flop vs these specific opponents isnt bad at all. Hero is no doubt behind and will not fold a better hand. 100% c-bet is for spastics.
I think you played it fine, but I'm also sure you played it that way for completely different reasons as to why I may play it that way [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] SERIOUSLYx3 JT |
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Re: Hero folds?
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if you're up against 3 gutshots that's around 26% in cumulative equity. [/ QUOTE ] And if 3 gutshots overcall the potsize has nearly doubled. Risking losing 4BB 26% of the time vs. winning 3BB 74% of the time sounds like a good deal to me. [ QUOTE ] if your raise mangages to fold another ace you gain the equity of 2 king outs, 4 queen outs and 2 ace outs(that's 17% equity). [/ QUOTE ] Except you don't lose the entire pot against those hands so it's functionally more like half that. [ QUOTE ] if your raise folds out a pp, a gutshot and another ace you've gained their 30% in equity [/ QUOTE ] At the expense of 3BB! That's a lot compared to what you're protecting. And that's assuming more than one of the opponents behind you is even drawing live, often they're not. [ QUOTE ] on the flip side, planning on folding to a 3bet is giving up 5% of your equity the times your against trips or a FH. [/ QUOTE ] There's also a non-negligible chance you get 3bet by an A that sucks at poker. [ QUOTE ] when the pot gets a certain size, it is more to your benefit to win it immediately [/ QUOTE ] Agree but if you think 4-6BB is worth protecting from 2 and 4 outers you need to rethink your math. |
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