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Old 02-05-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

Wee I'm playing SnGs again.

His stats seemed decent no other real read, maybe A VERY TINY bit loose but in no way unusual.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1060
UTG+1: t1860
MP1: t1870
MP2: t3150
CO: t1120
Hero: t1070
SB: t1750
BB: t1620

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t650</font>, 2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

No fold equity + flipping coins against his range for your stack + two yet to act = fold.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

I am 99+ AQ+ here is that way too nitty?
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

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No fold equity + flipping coins against his range for your stack + two yet to act = fold.

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I have 5.5 blinds and there's 1.5 blinds dead. If I knew I was 50/50 vs. his range I would shove instantly.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

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I am 99+ AQ+ here is that way too nitty?

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I MAYBE throw 88 in there.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

Well, I think you are or close to it, taking dead blinds into effect. I still don't think you should call, esp. w/ Full Tilt structure.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

I definitely fold, you're far less than 50/50 against his range.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

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Well, I think you are or close to it, taking dead blinds into effect. I still don't think you should call, esp. w/ Full Tilt structure.

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ok, so what you meant to say is 0 EV including dead blinds. That's way different than "flipping" vs his range [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:20 PM
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I definitely fold, you're far less than 50/50 against his range.

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Debatable. I don't consider myself loose at all and you'd be pretty close to 50/50 against my range there. I'm also not sure I'm ready to lock a player into a tight, thinking range when he raises more than a third of his stack with less than 10x BB. If "any A" or KQ are part of the range, things improve dramatically for the hero.

I still agree it's a fold.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: ($22 turbo FT) Bleh vs. a seeming ok player

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I definitely fold, you're far less than 50/50 against his range.

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Debatable. I don't consider myself loose at all and you'd be pretty close to 50/50 against my range there. I'm also not sure I'm ready to lock a player into a tight, thinking range when he raises more than a third of his stack with less than 10x BB. If "any A" or KQ are part of the range, things improve dramatically for the hero.

I still agree it's a fold.

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KQ maybe, but do we really think that ace-rag is in Villian's range here? I certainly don't.

Also, if your range opening 3 off the button here is 50/50 with AT, then you are definitely loose in my book.
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