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Old 09-22-2007, 05:59 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $213.00
BB: $74.00
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $116.00
CO: $189.00
BTN: $335.70

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is grnsckc343, he runs like 25/22/7.4, I've only been at the table a few orbits, this hand felt weird, what do you guys think?</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, Hero calls $24.00

Turn: ($89) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $67.00</font> Hero?
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

You've officially stopped beating anything.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

officially?
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

calling flop is fine, turn is probably a fold
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

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calling flop is fine, turn is probably a fold

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If folding the turn is ok, then why is calling the flop ok?

I mean, do you really think he's not going to bet QQ again here?
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

0% chance he has QQ here given pf action, he's either bluffing/semi-bluffing or he has 2pair+
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:23 PM
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0% chance he has QQ here given pf action, he's either bluffing/semi-bluffing or he has 2pair+

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Then that means calling the flop isnt ok. Either re-raise or fold.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

Fold flop unless you expect he is abusing you. Maybe fold anyway.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

either reraise or fold? that sounds dumb. why let him stop bluffing if he's bluffing?
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: KK overpair vs TAG, not sure what to do

Still not sure what the best plan is, I think if he's semi-bluffing though he'll check behind on the turn fearing the stack-a-donk, and I doubt he'll continue bluffing if he was bluff raising the flop (for the same reason), so basically I just did the worst thing possible [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $213.00
BB: $74.00
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $116.00
CO: $189.00
BTN: $335.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, Hero calls $24.00

Turn: ($89) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $67.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $157.00</font>, BTN calls $90.00

River: ($403) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $403.00 ($3 Rake)

BTN had 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes) and LOST (-$200.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$200.00)

Better to be lucky than good I guess.
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