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Old 10-08-2007, 11:04 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default standard OP against donk?

Villain 43/14/2 after 40 hands. nothing else.

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $706.98
Hero (BTN): $223.40
SB: $420.45
BB: $211.64
UTG: $326.70

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12

Turn: ($39) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $27</font>, BB calls $27

River: ($93) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:08 AM
SpecT SpecT is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

id rather check behind on turn then fold to a river bet, or valuebet 2/3 pot if river blanks and checked to.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:10 AM
skibbel skibbel is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

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id rather check behind on turn then fold to a river bet, or valuebet 2/3 pot if river blanks and checked to.

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You're not afraid of folding the best too many times?
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:21 PM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

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id rather check behind on turn then fold to a river bet, or valuebet 2/3 pot if river blanks and checked to.

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Villain seems quite passive? At least I thought that if I get raised there, I am so beat I can easily fold (he wouldnt suddenl raise with a draw for example). But he is also loose enough that he might call a nice VB.

That was my reasoning. I generally take the "bet turn, take free SD" -line a lot against passive, loose players. Against aggros, I might induce a bluff more often.

edit: I would also fire turn with air because overcard hit, so now that I actually have something....
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Merlinius Merlinius is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

i play it the same. that is, because i would often bluff at the Ace hitting and to get value from draws.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:33 PM
RAHZero RAHZero is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

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id rather check behind on turn then fold to a river bet, or valuebet 2/3 pot if river blanks and checked to.

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If I'm checking behind on the turn I'm snap-calling a river bet on a non-spade river. That's the line I'd prefer to take here, check the turn and call most rivers. Make a little over 1/2 pot value bet if checked to.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:36 PM
Warteen Warteen is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

I like the way this was played. A turn bet allows you to fold to a c/r and check behind the river, assuming he doesn't donk into you (which I find that smarter villains often do in such a spot). There's a good chance your hand is still best after the ace hits, so a turn bet gets value from draws and low pairs, has some fold equity, and gives you a shot at a showdown. This is a good line.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:11 AM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: standard OP against donk?

good hand kalle, take the showdown now.
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