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Old 06-25-2007, 12:05 PM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default Badly played hand, river decision

This hand is played absolutely awfully I know but can I call this river bet? I really think he has nothing. What hand can he have that plays like this? Im pretty sure BB has KK/QQ and wont overcall as he seems ok. No read on button

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $11.40
BB: $7.40
UTG: $15.25
MP: $9.50
CO: $28.70
BTN: $13.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.30</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.00</font>, BTN calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($3) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $1.10</font>, BTN calls $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($6.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

River: ($6.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $5.50</font>, [i]Hero ???, BB to act behind

Pot Size: $16.90 ($0.80 Rake)
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:10 PM
TonyRoflmao TonyRoflmao is offline
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

Where is the decision? He could have raised any ace on the button and beat you.

But seriously why would you call preflop there? If you think he is stealing 3-bet, but really QJo is the kind of hand you just fold there b/c it's a trap hand.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

fold pf - and no - you can't call this river bet
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:17 PM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

I am fully aware I should prob have folded pre flop, I was not fully concentrating, oh well.

Does an Ace really play like this is what Im getting at. I really dont think so personally, I think he has nothing tbh
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

looks like he doesn't have much, but that would be a marginal call on your part. he's not just betting into you, but also BB, that would definitely lean it more to a fold.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

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looks like he doesn't have much, but that would be a marginal call on your part. he's not just betting into you, but also BB, that would definitely lean it more to a fold.

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Good point about the BB, just cos I had him on a hand doesnt mean BTN did.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

fold the river, there´s just about no way you are good here. I would have raised the weak flop bet though. i´ve been experimenting with rasing bets on monotone flops and it has been really successful. additionally to quite good fe imo you also have the 2nd nut fd
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

Fold at all decision points.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:31 PM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

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fold the river, there´s just about no way you are good here. I would have raised the weak flop bet though. i´ve been experimenting with rasing bets on monotone flops and it has been really successful. additionally to quite good fe imo you also have the 2nd nut fd

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Yeh i thought about rsing flop but like i said, i was not concentrating. So what hand are you putting him on that beats us and checks turn?
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: Badly played hand, river decision

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Fold at all decision points.

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Real helpful, great insight
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