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Old 09-14-2007, 07:29 AM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

Villain is a grinder playing 21/11/3 and doesn't 3-bet light and this is the first time I have ever seen him 4-bet I think. We haven't tangled w/ each other like ever. He also opened UTG and we are 140bb deep. I just can't see him doing this w/o AA (or KK which is very unlikely for him to have obviously). What do you think about my fold?

EverestPoker Game #2074325956: Table Nassau-1 - $3.00/$6.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:19:38 - 2007/09/14
Seat 1: HERO ($837.00)
Seat 2: redpillz ($190.46)
Seat 3: North ($354.20)
Seat 4: pataya78 ($943.72)
Seat 5: karpati ($166.00)
Seat 6: glingg ($131.30)
redpillz posts the small blind of $3.00
North posts the big blind of $6.00
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
pataya78 raises to $21.00
karpati folds
glingg folds
HERO raises to $72.00
redpillz folds
North folds
pataya78 raises to $243.00
HERO folds
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:34 AM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

looks fine to me, i hardly ever do it but these circumstaces and read seem ok.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:36 AM
Borsig Borsig is offline
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

I am stacking off here against for 140bb.. I could see him do this with AA,KK,QQ and sometimes JJ. The fact that you are on the button makes his 4b range bigger than just AA imo.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:37 AM
MatthijsH MatthijsH is offline
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

Based on your reads on villain the fold seems fine.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

shove, you have outs
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

it would think its pretty important what kind of style you play. if you run at something like 23/20 or thereabouts and you have played with the villain a fair bit and he prob has a decent idea of how you play then i dont think you should be folding this. if your stats are similar to his then that makes it closer to a fold imo, but i still doubt that i would.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:58 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

fold kings preflop is the new never fold kings preflop.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

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Old 09-14-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

if you think he always has AA or KK here then what is there for us to discuss?
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: I folded kings pre-flop... wanna kill me?

This guy is terrible, I would push and feel very good about it.
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