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Old 10-15-2007, 10:59 PM
sfetaz sfetaz is offline
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Default QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

The reads I have with Poker Pro 2007 (trying out new software) is that UTG + 1 is fish and button is loose aggressive.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font> Hero.....
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:29 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

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Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls...

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WTF? Are you actually telling us that you expected BTN to raise this flop, so you wanted to 3bet?

Just raise the effing turn. UTG+1 is more likely to have AJ than JJ/KK/AA put together, and button haz uh fahv!
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:35 PM
Man of Means Man of Means is offline
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Default Re: QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

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WTF? Are you actually telling us that you expected BTN to raise this flop, so you wanted to 3bet?

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Perhaps he was planning to raise the turn? But once UTG smooth-calls, hero might as well make it 3bets because he doesn't think he'll have the chance to raise turn.

But oddly enough, he has been given the opportunity to do it. Very nice.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:36 PM
DavidSRT DavidSRT is offline
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Default Re: QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

Raise flop the first time through, raise turn. Against the type of players you described you likely have the best hand.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:04 AM
scpi10 scpi10 is offline
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Default Re: QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

grunch

Please raise flop the first time. As played Hero raises the turn.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

UTG+1 is fish, Button is loose? Then cap the turn!
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: QQ in MP1, two players not going anywhere

i would raise flop and turn
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:10 AM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Perhaps he was planning to raise the turn?

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Well, that's why I asked the question, MoM. Against these players, of course, that's a terrible plan, but I think you know that.
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