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Old 11-14-2006, 02:41 PM
TalentedTom TalentedTom is offline
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Default 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

Today I decided to play standard tight-aggresive (24/18) villian is preety loose so far playing ~50% of hands fighting for most pots but not getting very out of line (eg. 3 barrel bluffing) This is my second orbit in the table so I have no real reads yet.

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BB ($1320.75)
UTG ($585)
TalentedTom ($643.90)
CO ($389.40)
Button ($348.25)
SB ($690.55)

Preflop: TalentedTom is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">TalentedTom raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $15, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($54) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">TalentedTom bets $52</font>, SB calls $52, BB folds.

Turn: ($158) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB: bets $120
TalentedTom:

This was an unusual sutation because most people don't frontbet this big after calling a PSB on the flop. I'm wondering how most people preceive this bet and what they would do? I see people donkbet upfront very often but never a real frontbet. Thoughts?
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

$350
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

J9 or 45 are more likely than a set, I agree with you on frontbets, usually they are a materialized draw or a scared bottom two, or just air, I think you are prolly still ahead and would read the FB as posturing or an improved hand/draw/scared bottom two. It's me gtp by the way Tom.
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

I would just call in this spot.
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

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$350

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I think this looks ridiculously strong, I think its call or shove
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

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villian is preety loose so far playing ~50% of hands

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And I am not giving a free card here.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

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I would just call in this spot.

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Yep, call turn push river if he bets again, otherwise value-bet.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

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$350

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Leaving me a little less than $200 behind, so I immagine I blindly push any river here. Does this not give away the strength of my hand - the fact that we are not even thinking about stack sizes and proper leverage, we are just trying to dump as much money into the pot as possible. I would immagine against a thinking player we never get called by a weaker hand here, is this a good result winning $400 pot with little varience or is it worth calling here and taking a shot at winning a bigger pot vs his range?
It's possible he frontbets AJ, KJ with the intention of folding to most reraises (this is a common line used by thinking players).


I was stuck between push/call. The problem being push has massive fold equity vs his range while call may allow some draws to get there (which will happen a relativley small % of the time anyway) it will make me additional money against top pair type hands or if he's bluffing he may be inclined to fire a second barrel (which I mentioned I have yet to see, but I suspect he is more than capable of this)
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

minraise that [censored]
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: 3/6NL - Loose aggresive frontbets

I generally push in this spot.

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The problem being push has massive fold equity vs his range

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Would you think this if you had made a CB on a flop that missed?
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