why are people overbet shoving on me today?

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wtf is going on today? villian's 52.4/9.5/0.37 but only 21 hands. he's been limp/calling and cold calling pf raises a lot. Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $168.20
SB: $138.40
BB: $257.25
UTG: $118.50
Hero (MP): $230.10
CO: $200.80

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6

Flop: ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $34</font>, Hero calls $17

Turn: ($92) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $204</font>, Hero ???

[Rainclouds]

He's overbet shoving because he has the nuts or the near nuts, and you should fold.

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no interest here i guess?

[Imrahil]

Fold

[HoldEmNewby]

I think flop is an uber easy fold.

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I think flop is an uber easy fold.

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i only lose to QJ/55. I've seen these types do this w/ weakish top pair hands so I'm not too worried about the flop.

[tubasteve]

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I think flop is an uber easy fold.

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disagree, but turn is a fold. ive never won after making this call.

[The4thFilm]

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I think flop is an uber easy fold.

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i only lose to QJ/55. I've seen these types do this w/ weakish top pair hands so I'm not too worried about the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]Wow.

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I think flop is an uber easy fold.

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i only lose to QJ/55. I've seen these types do this w/ weakish top pair hands so I'm not too worried about the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]Wow.

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he doesn't three bet QQ/JJ? ok maybe not JJ but he's not flatting here w/ QQ+.

[Pokey]

Hmmm, sounds like an epidemic. In the last two days I've bumped into two separate (and bad) players who liked nothing more than to make huge overbet pushes. I've called and won three of those four pushes, never with a hand stronger than top two pair:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $110.70
BTN: $86
SB: $128.05
Hero (BB): $220.35
UTG: $101.50

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $3</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $85 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $75

Turn: ($173) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($173) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $173 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Eights and Fours) and LOST (-$86 NET)
Hero showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Eights) and WON $170 (+$84 NET)

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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $232.75
UTG: $112.65
MP: $98.50
CO: $98.50
Hero (BTN): $100
SB: $99

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $86</font>, Hero calls $86

Turn: ($180.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $19</font>, Hero calls $10 and is All-In

River: ($200.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $200.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$100 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and WON $197.50 (+$97.50 NET)

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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $54.30
SB: $100.50
BB: $103.45
Hero (UTG): $105.75
CO: $143.25

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $50.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $44.30

Turn: ($110.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($110.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $110.10 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Fours) and LOST (-$54.30 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Fours) and WON $107.10 (+$52.80 NET)

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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $85.30
BTN: $100
SB: $60.45
BB: $101.60
Hero (UTG): $156.05

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, CO calls $6

Turn: ($21.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, CO calls $14

River: ($49.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $61.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $61.30

Results: $172.10 Pot ($3 Rake)
CO showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and WON $169.10 (+$83.80 NET)
Hero mucked 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$85.30 NET)

OK, so I should have folded the last one -- what can I say? I got greedy. Suffice it to say that somewhere, someone is doing a webinar on how to use a Kill Phil strategy to beat cash games, and the fish are all signed up.

Whoever it is, we need to find them and send them a fruit basket to show our appreciation.