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Old 03-04-2006, 01:23 AM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

Opponent hasn't done anything remarkable yet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1350)
SB (t1110)
BB (t2180)
UTG (t1325)
MP1 (t3705)
MP2 (t2725)
CO (t1105)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t350</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero ?
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

350 bet makes it look like he knows what he's doing. UTG I don't think you're too likely to see anything under AT here. If I put villain on 66+, AT+ in SNGPT this is a -.5% call. Add to that the slight possibility one of the blinds picks up a hand, looks like a fold.

Now, having said that, I'm 90% sure I push here. Could be a leak.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

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350 bet makes it look like he knows what he's doing.

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I see this as him either not knowing what he is doing (betting a quarter of his stack) or playing QQ+ if he is a good player.

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If I put villain on 66+, AT+ in SNGPT this is a -.5% call.

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You need to account for the percentage of time he folds - this has a huge impact on your $ ev calculation and makes this + $ev I think.

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Old 03-04-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

I think I have also had a leak by not respecting UTG raises enough with hands like AQ.

I pushed this and he had AK, naturally.

The big raise makes it look like JJ/TT/AK, so I'm not sure why I pushed.

Surely he wouldn't raise AJ/AT like that.

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Old 03-04-2006, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

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350 bet makes it look like he knows what he's doing.

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I see this as him either not knowing what he is doing (betting a quarter of his stack) or playing QQ+ if he is a good player.

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By "know what he's doing" I meant taking the time to type in a raise that's not 3BB. About 3-5% of people do that on PS. Donks never do.


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If I put villain on 66+, AT+ in SNGPT this is a -.5% call.

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You need to account for the percentage of time he folds - this has a huge impact on your $ ev calculation and makes this + $ev I think.

rvg

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If this is truly his range, I doubt if he's folding much once he's that committed.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

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I think I have also had a leak by not respecting UTG raises enough with hands like AQ.

I pushed this and he had AK, naturally.

The big raise makes it look like JJ/TT/AK, so I'm not sure why I pushed.

Surely he wouldn't raise AJ/AT like that.

RYan

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He might. I'm not folding AJ there, or limping, so I'd raise it to 300 and probably call a push w/o a read. AT I might fold. But even if he's raising with AT/AJ, we showed it's still a bad call. If villain has been very quiet, he's probably at least fairly tight. I really hope I have the discipline to follow my own advice on this the next time it comes up.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

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I'm not folding AJ there, or limping, so I'd raise it to 300 and probably call a push w/o a read.

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Raising AJ is fine, but I'm pretty sure calling a push is a leak when you can fold and still be at +10BB.
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

I fold real fast without a read that Villain is a donk. Even with a read, I'm going to think about folding. Your hand is just not as good as it looks.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

i would push here. "utg" is not that scary when you're 7-handed and at 13x stacks.

as for the comments about FE, i don't think you want any. villain is not folding any pair, and he's not raising anything that's not Ax/KQ very often here, so you'd rather he didn't fold.
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: ($60) Push AQs over top of UTG raise?

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i would push here. "utg" is not that scary when you're 7-handed and at 13x stacks.

as for the comments about FE, i don't think you want any. villain is not folding any pair, and he's not raising anything that's not Ax/KQ very often here, so you'd rather he didn't fold.

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You said this might be a leak? It is. I would fold here. Some on here would even go as far as to fold TT here. I might as well. AQ is instamuck though.
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