5/10 - gamboool?

[haggy]

5/10 live at Motorcity Casino. Villain is a weak player (tends to overvalue hands in big pots, talks too much, etc.) limps utg, I make it 50 with 10cJc, button calls, blinds folds, limper calls.

Flop: (Pot = 165)

2s 3c 4c

utg limper lead for 250 (~500 more behind). I study button caller for a second and he clearly seems disinterested in the pot so I am not too worried about him.

Is this an easy muck? What do you make of his lead of 250 into a ~150 pot? Should hero just figure the > psb just looks like a live weak player with a scared 55-99 trying to take the pot down immediately and just stick it in with two overs + flush? Or is this a set or straight in your experience? I would expect the utg limpers range to be 22-1010 with a5s and 56s (plus other random crap? haven't played with him *that* much to know how often he is just going nuts here). The game was playing pretty passively - a couple guys had limp/called with AK and shown it down so honestly I am moderately confused as to just how wide this guys limping range is.

I guess my main question is how you react when a semi-shorty limp/calls pf and the leads into you with a greater than pot size bet live when you get a pretty damn good flop for your hand.

[destroBU]

In my experience, this means "I have a pretty good to great hand but I'm DEATHLY AFRAID of half of the deck"

Also, just fold

[haggy]

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In my experience, this means "I have a pretty good to great hand but I'm DEATHLY AFRAID of half of the deck"

Also, just fold

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But how often does an idiot live player consider 55-99 "a pretty good hand that is scare of half the deck"? (I don't have an answer myself, tbh)

[Praetor]

I would just fold here.

[kev123]

Ok my 1st thought was just to shove the 2overs with the FD, but everyone else seems to think its a clear fold.

I`m trying to get used to using Pokerstove & have used the following range, could someone tell me if I`m way out with a range like this... what else should be inculded or taken out

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

54,450 games 0.015 secs 3,630,000 games/sec

Board: 2s 3c 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.538% 43.94% 00.59% 23928 323.00 { JcTc }
Hand 1: 55.462% 54.87% 00.59% 29876 323.00 { KK, 99-55, 33, AcTc, Ac5c, As5s, 8c7c, 7c6c, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s, Ad5h, Ad5s, Ah5s, 6d5c, 6h5c, 6h5d, 6s5c, 6s5d, 6s5h }

If I have calculated right then we actually only need 45% equity if all the money goes in the middle, & surely if we push we have some fold equity even against a donk.

I`ve just started trying to calculate ranges v equity so I could be so wrong here but I don`t think its a clear fold.

help appreciated if I`m wrong