Fold KK this preflop???

Tofu_boy · #1 06-14-2007, 07:57 PM

I did Fold KK preflop several times before with stars. I start play FTP for about a month now this is very 1st hand I fold KK Preflop any though.
Villian is TPP with 9/1.2/.56 out of 400 hands,

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($81.50)
MP2 ($43.50)
MP3 ($51.05)
CO ($45)
Hero ($74.45)
SB ($97.35)
BB ($10)
UTG ($98)
UTG+1 ($100.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3, 4 folds, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, UTG raises to $30, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.50

SABR42 · #2 06-14-2007, 08:03 PM

Your initial raise is way too small.

9/1.2 over a large sample? Jeez... I think a fold is ok.

Klompy · #3 06-14-2007, 08:04 PM

rebuy predeal, and I don't mind a fold here

bottomset · #4 06-14-2007, 08:05 PM

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Your initial raise is way too small.

9/1.2 over a large sample? Jeez... I think a fold is ok.

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400hands isn't a large sample

you'll have 400hand samples without any JJ+ AK

SABR42 · #5 06-14-2007, 08:13 PM

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Your initial raise is way too small.

9/1.2 over a large sample? Jeez... I think a fold is ok.

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400hands isn't a large sample

you'll have 400hand samples without any JJ+ AK

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If I'm doing my math correctly you should pick up [JJ+, AK] once every 33 hands on average. I agree 400 hands is not a large sample (I didn't word it correctly), but we can say with pretty high confidence that the guy is a nit. He's highly unlikely to be 15/5 or whatever.

Tofu_boy · #6 06-14-2007, 08:19 PM

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Your initial raise is way too small.

9/1.2 over a large sample? Jeez... I think a fold is ok.

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Yeah Normally I would raise it up tp $13-15 here. 12 tables and this new FTP speed I need to work myself a bit faster.

bottomset · #7 06-14-2007, 08:21 PM

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Your initial raise is way too small.

9/1.2 over a large sample? Jeez... I think a fold is ok.

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Yeah Normally I would raise it up tp $13-15 here. 12 tables and this new FTP speed I need to work myself a bit faster.

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click pot
click raise
profit?

Tofu_boy · #8 06-14-2007, 08:29 PM

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Your initial raise is way too small.

9/1.2 over a large sample? Jeez... I think a fold is ok.

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Yeah Normally I would raise it up tp $13-15 here. 12 tables and this new FTP speed I need to work myself a bit faster.

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click pot
click raise
profit?

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Thanks for the tipd I'll do that next time. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

pterodactyl_ · #9 06-14-2007, 08:35 PM

Looks like a good fold. DAMN that dude is nitty!

effang · #10 06-14-2007, 08:36 PM

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I did Fold KK preflop several times before with stars. I start play FTP for about a month now this is very 1st hand I fold KK Preflop any though.
Villian is TPP with 9/1.2/.56 out of 400 hands,

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($81.50)
MP2 ($43.50)
MP3 ($51.05)
CO ($45)
Hero ($74.45)
SB ($97.35)
BB ($10)
UTG ($98)
UTG+1 ($100.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3, 4 folds, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, UTG raises to $30, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.50

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this is horrible. what did you expect when you 3-bet him? that he's going to fold? either be ready to shove, or if you're sure he has AA or AK, then call and play some poker. you wasted money, for "information" but you already had that information in your stats.

As is, 400 hands is not a lot. This can be AAKKQQ, but we can assume it is NOT AK. if that's what you're 3-betting for (to find out if it's QQ), then, i guess you found out.