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Old 02-14-2007, 07:02 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Villain is FerSuaya in case anyone is familiar. He has been relatively quiet, and hasn't messed with my BB too much. I can't remember the last time I played with him (it's been a while and I have no notes). The shorty has played like absolute crap, blinding himself off to less than 2xBB. Comments on both streets welcome.

CO (t3855)
Button (t1105)
SB (t4190)
Hero (t4350)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1200</font>, Hero calls t600

Flop: (t2900) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t2940 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero Vomits</font>
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:03 PM
FeNeF FeNeF is offline
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

Well you can't call PF and fold when you hit. I'd just fold to his minraise, it's not worth it.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

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Well you can't call PF and fold when you hit. I'd just fold to his minraise, it's not worth it.

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Agreed. Lol @ Hero Vomits.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

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Well you can't call PF and fold when you hit. I'd just fold to his minraise, it's not worth it.

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Agreed. Lol @ Hero Vomits.

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I think the bottom line is that I cannot call his shove on the flop. What do I beat? KT &amp; K9? I know you're asking the question "If you're calling PF what kind of flop are you looking for if you don't like this one?" I'm looking for one that he doesn't shove his whole stack in. I said earlier that he'd left my BB alone and definitely wasn't a pwner so I was expecting a smaller bet or a check, and I could then put the pressure on him/value bet.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

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Well you can't call PF and fold when you hit. I'd just fold to his minraise, it's not worth it.

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Agreed. Lol @ Hero Vomits.

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I think the bottom line is that I cannot call his shove on the flop. What do I beat? KT &amp; K9? I know you're asking the question "If you're calling PF what kind of flop are you looking for if you don't like this one?" I'm looking for one that he doesn't shove his whole stack in. I said earlier that he'd left my BB alone and definitely wasn't a pwner so I was expecting a smaller bet or a check, and I could then put the pressure on him/value bet.

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Nah. You can't call PF and fold this, that's just bad.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

Top pair heads up is a huge hand. I'd put him on jacks (AJ/JT) or a draw. An easy call.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

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Top pair heads up is a huge hand. I'd put him on jacks (AJ/JT) or a draw. An easy call.

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I'll doubt he'll min raise into you with J10 oop.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

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Well you can't call PF and fold when you hit. I'd just fold to his minraise, it's not worth it.

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Agreed. Lol @ Hero Vomits.

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I think the bottom line is that I cannot call his shove on the flop. What do I beat? KT &amp; K9? I know you're asking the question "If you're calling PF what kind of flop are you looking for if you don't like this one?" I'm looking for one that he doesn't shove his whole stack in. I said earlier that he'd left my BB alone and definitely wasn't a pwner so I was expecting a smaller bet or a check, and I could then put the pressure on him/value bet.

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I think this is a inst-call, very unlikely he would push with a hand that actually beats you, I really wouldn't be surprised to see a hand less than second pair
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: $60; KQo on bubble in BB facing min raise from other big stack

God, if you had any sort of &gt;5 card draw here. . .
I think you've got to fold with shortie there, especially considering your read. If shortie only had a few more blinds and a clue, I might call this.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:43 PM
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shove it pf.
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