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Old 08-11-2007, 02:23 PM
jeanbaptiste36 jeanbaptiste36 is offline
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Default 2 bets to my set on the river

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

River: (8.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

Bettor: 65/5/1.4
raiser 20/14/2.83
over 35 hands.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:41 PM
Fantam Fantam is offline
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

Yuck ! I hate the thought of folding a set on the river.

UTG is fishy and looks as though he may have made 2 pair on the river. MP2's limited stats look more solid though.

I dont know, they are both unlikely to have 2 pair, arent they ? This smells of MP2 completing his straight draw with KT to me.

Hmmm, getting 12:2 to call, assuming that UTG also calls....

Ugh, I think that I grit my teeth and fold. Then try not to go on tilt, if I folded the best hand.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:51 PM
voyamatarte voyamatarte is offline
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

Are you putting MP2 on KT or AA? I think we have to call here, I dont see anything else that is going to beat us here.
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

grunch

pot is unriased
u raised flop so they dont think u have set
so they can think that any A can be good and especialy 2 pairs like A7s for UTG

but i realy dont have idea what can hold solid villian
it can be KTs cus i dont see which 2 pair he can hold

possibly its my leak but i make cry call cus sample of solid player is not enought
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:22 PM
jeanbaptiste36 jeanbaptiste36 is offline
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

How did you come to the conclusion that 2 pairs are unlikely?
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:58 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

cus TAG:
- cant have QJ cus he would probably raise PF or any net streex (esspecialy turn)
- cant have AJ,AQ cus he raise PF (he is over agro) BTW sample is small so one option can be AJo but he would rather raise it PF)
- cant hold A5 cus he would fold flop or turn (no pot odds)
- also cant hold A7s cus he dont call flop and probably raise PF

so i dont see any 2 pair at TAG hand at river [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
pls pm what he has
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Old 08-12-2007, 06:04 PM
wcsherry wcsherry is offline
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

It does look like UTG hit 2 pair, and MP2 played KTs or KTo exactly how you'd expect someone too. The idea of UTG 3-betting, and MP2 capping with us stuck in the middle makes me pretty uncomfortable with calling to boot.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

65/5 looks like he only raises AK+ so he could easily have AQ or AJ and be timid, especially if you've been beating up on him. MP2 could easily have AT-A2 the weaker the ace the more likely it is to be suited. So 2 pair or an ace is not out of the question here. I doubt UTG is 3-betting this so I call and kick my imaginary dog if MHING.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

what a spot!!!

I don't see how you can fold ... IMO MP 'should be' raising UTG-tardboy's open limp with KT

IMO 3bet or call ... i would probably lean towards a 3ball (the idiot in UTG will call with a bunch of crap, and for one more bet MP would not fold 2pair - or even TP)

not too sure what cap would mean - you pretty much have to call it
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:44 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: 2 bets to my set on the river

I'm always calling this and showing down my set.
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