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Old 04-28-2007, 01:39 PM
PocketHogans PocketHogans is offline
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Default Did I miss too much value here?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($25.90)
SB ($21.60)
BB ($21.55)
UTG ($30.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60.

Flop: ($2.55) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, SB calls $2, BB folds.

Turn: ($6.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.75</font>, Hero calls $2.75.

River: ($12.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.75</font>, Hero calls $3.75.

Final Pot: $19.55

My thoughts when he called the flop were that he had a jack. When he led the turn, I considered raising, but chickened out because I thought he'd probably just check-call if he hadn't filled up. My thought process was same for river. Did I miss too much value here by playing cautious? After the hand I realized that my hand has much more value than I thought because of my flop bet. My opponent probably expects me to check trips or a boat, so he assumes his hand is good. I didn't take this into consideration during the hand, but it seems like a valid reason to play this hand stronger.
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss too much value here?

Turn and river both look like blocking bets. You can mostly rule out J9, and J4 is an unlikely holding for a cold-caller in the SB, so I would go ahead and raise the turn. River can often be a raise as played, but you need some sort of READ.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss too much value here?

Whats a read?
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss too much value here?

Chuck Palahniuk. Milan Kundera. Tight-aggressive. Haruki Murakami. Tight-passive, fish. Umberto Eco. Albert Camus. Call-station. Phillip Pullman. J.R.R. Tolkien. LAGtard psycho tiltomatic maniac. Immanuel Kant. James Joyce. Overvalues non-nut flushes, always stacks off with aces whatever the flop brings. Kurt Vonnegut. Al Alvarez. Voltaire.Good player, changes gears, good at hand-reading, stay away.

Oh, and the Gary Neville autobiography is worth reading.
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss too much value here?

Yeah, the lead of less than half the pot really doesn't look like a made boat to me. I'd jack it up here, although how much would definitely be read-dependent.
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