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Old 10-03-2007, 01:16 AM
JDLade JDLade is offline
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***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
NL $1000 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 00:51:12 03/10/2007 ET
Table 'Rabbit Hunting (6 Max)', 6 seats max, Real money
Seat 4 is the button. Small Blind $5, Big Blind $10
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
Seat 3 (joined) : V1, amount $2260, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (joined) : V2, amount $93.50, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (joined) : V2, amount $218.50, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (joined) : Hero, amount $1268.37, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
V2: Small Blind ($5)
Hero: Big Blind ($10)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to Hero: [Kd, Jc]
V2: Raise ($93.50)
V2: Fold
Hero: Call ($83.50)
V2: Show Cards ($0)
Hero: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [9h, Ah, 2h]
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [Th]
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [7c]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
Hero: Show Cards ($0)
V2: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $190, Rake $2
Summary V2: bet $93.50, won $190, net $96.50, HoleCards [Js, 8c], HiHand [a straight, seven to jack] [Js, Th, 9h, 8c, 7c], won $190 from main pot
Summary Hero: bet $93.50, won $0, net $-93.50, HoleCards [Kd, Jc]


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Old 10-03-2007, 01:19 AM
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You called a close to 9 and a half times the BB raise with KJ offsuit.

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:23 AM
JDLade JDLade is offline
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You obviously are not on world poker exchange

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Old 10-03-2007, 01:28 AM
OnTheRize OnTheRize is offline
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Right. So if im playing in Vegas, and then go to Atlantic City somehow my play is going to change?

You may have been a huge favorite, but a poker site, or how someone else play's is not a reason to call 9.5xBB with KJo.

The only way your a huge favorite is if you have him dominated. Even if he has 23o, hes still 35% against your KJo. Your gambling for 9.5xBB, which is not a winning poker strat.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:59 AM
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Just to make things clear: V2 is accidentally listed as 2 players, the one that raised to 93.5 was going all in, it was a call an all in/fold situation, so I have to be ahead, on avg. 83.5/(83.5+93.5) 47.1% of the time... not a "huge favorite", although it will happen sometimes, just like I'll run into KK sometimes...

I don't really understand your point, I'd very much like him to have 23o, you're making it sound like it isn't a good call even if he does have that, which is a lil off

...unless the source of confusion is me accidentally putting 2 V2's but I don't think its that hard of a mistake to catch...

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Old 10-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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Im confused by OP... whats the beat in this post? That you called with KJo ?

seriously... I dont get it :S
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:14 PM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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What's that penalty thing all about? And which site is this?
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:46 PM
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Im confused by OP... whats the beat in this post? That you called with KJo ?

seriously... I dont get it :S

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This is BBV. I posted a beat.
Whats to get?
And no its not a beat that I called with KJ, it was a correct call, for reasons I already described, if you disagree, please say why.

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What's that penalty thing all about?

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penalty? who said something about a penalty?
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And which site is this?

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on World Poker Exchange

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are you reading this thread?

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Old 10-03-2007, 05:02 PM
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It's not much of a beat, you never had so much as a pair. I understand that you had him dominated but we're not talking AA versus AK here. KJ's definitely not a calling hand and it's probably a good thing you lost that pot so maybe you won't get your donk on with it in the future.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:13 PM
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he wasn't an unknown, his pf push range is ridiculous there, and obviously I was right
I understand Results Oriented Thinking is normally to be avoided, but we do gain knowledge by his action that his push range does include J8o, no?
someone not as lazy as I, run a comparison on J8o+ 22+ J8s+ and see what the result is vs KJo, if you care that much

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