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Old 07-12-2007, 09:51 AM
1p0kerboy 1p0kerboy is offline
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Default 100NL: on the River with an overpair

Villian is 17/14 and very agressive. His post-flop agression by street is 5.8/2.5/1.5.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $127.40
BB: $37.85
Hero (UTG): $97.50
UTG 1: $74.50
MP1: $98.50
MP2: $22.50
MP3: $123.05
CO: $20.40
BTN: $110.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 5 folds, BTN calls $4.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $21.00</font>, Hero calls $13.00

Turn: ($51.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($51.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)

What is your action and how do you respond to the various reactions of the opponent?
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:55 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

C/C to let him bluff?

You could also bet/fold $30-ish for value if you think he raises the flop with 7x or 88 to "test if he's good."

I like betting better on second thought.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

I think he tried to bluff you out on the flop and your hand is good bet for value on the river and hope he has a a bluff catch thats not a-k of hearts
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

I'm curious why you called the flop raise. Would you please give your thoughts on that call? What were you planning on doing with different turns?

Personally, I'd want to reraise the flop.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

After the flop he kinda has to put you on something like what you have, a high PP, or maybe a A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] X [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Unless that is what he has which is possible too.

He took/allowed a free card on the Turn, so he was either drawing or had a weak hand that he hoped to show down cheap.

He can't believe you have anything that great either because you didn't reraise the flop and you checked the turn.

I don't know, to me it's probably equally likley that he has a busted draw or that the has a little something. He probably believes the same about you. Since you read him as aggro, I guess I would default to the check/call thing. This eliminates him bluff raising too (probably a rare occurrence though) which I would hate because I would probably fold but always have the doubt in my mind.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

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I think he tried to bluff you out on the flop and your hand is good bet for value on the river and hope he has a a bluff catch thats not a-k of hearts

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Value bet the river. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

I'd c/c, but I'm a chicken. If you bet, what's he going to call with? What do you do if he goes over top of you?
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

if he is aggro like you say then c/c is the obvious best choice.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

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I'm curious why you called the flop raise. Would you please give your thoughts on that call?

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Pot control.

Blindly stacking off with overpairs will get you crushed in NL, especially as you reach 100/200NL.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: on the River with an overpair

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I think he tried to bluff you out on the flop and your hand is good bet for value on the river and hope he has a a bluff catch thats not a-k of hearts

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Value bet the river. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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maybe you should try reading here a little more and posting a little less because I have read a bunch of the advice you have been giving the last week or two and you obvioulsy have no idea of what your talking about and I think if you go back and read the responces to your advice that other people have responded to you will see I am not the only one with that opinin of your advice. Some times I take differnt lines than other here but I do pretty well.

Now If this guy is agrro and has a hand he is not checking this turn period!The only thing he might have here is a back door flush oops our bad luck if he did but if you honestly worried about that come sit at my table. I think a diamond flush draw is much lore likely here as a aggro guys will take a line like this at 100nl with a flush draw or air if they think you missed. I persoannly can rule out aa kk or a set here so what does he have?
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