2nd barrel in 3bet pot

schwza · #1 10-08-2007, 11:31 PM

Poker Stars, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $349.40
SB: $907
BB: $1,127.80
UTG: $602.25
MP: $786.10
Hero (CO): $640.50

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP raises to $21, Hero raises to $66, 3 folds, MP calls $45

Flop: ($141) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($141) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $110, MP calls $110

River: ($361) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $275,

villain is 21/14. we have not been tangling a ton.

nuggetz87 · #2 10-08-2007, 11:36 PM

yuck. if i'm him i know TT-JJ, Qx make sense but i'm still calling river with 66.

creative · #3 10-09-2007, 12:01 AM

i dont see why this is bad if you can check aa,kk, qq on that flop

nuggetz87 · #4 10-09-2007, 12:05 AM

is he ever gonna think we're doing that though?

if i think it through it might be logical for his opponent to fold some hands with the reasoning that any complete bluff would have bet the flop, but i just don't don't think you get respect a lot of times after checking that flop.

FionnMac · #5 10-09-2007, 12:05 AM

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yuck. if i'm him i know TT-JJ, Qx make sense but i'm still calling river with 66.

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lol, you would be setting money on fire then. vs a typical reg 66 would be good here <10% of the time imo. usually, if he was going to bluff in this hand it would be the flop, OP's line has pot controlly flop/value town turn and river written all over it.

FionnMac · #6 10-09-2007, 12:07 AM

schwaza, what was your thinking behind not firing the flop here? i cbet alot on this flop i think.

Paul Thomson · #7 10-09-2007, 12:18 AM

I fire this flop 99% of the time. He's not likely to have a 5 or 2 right? I'd probably just double barrell the flop and turn. If you sized your bets on the smaller side (given the dry board), you could probably fit 3 bullets in your gun (even in this reraised pot).

I think the river is fine. Given that your hand looks like JJ or whatever.

ArturiusX · #8 10-09-2007, 12:21 AM

The problem with these lines and the reason why betting the flop is so much is better is the threat of a 3rd barrel will often get him to fold hands, that, when you use this line, will call off the river.

Eagles · #9 10-09-2007, 01:42 AM

I'd rather bet flop shove turn

schwza · #10 10-09-2007, 02:03 AM

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schwaza, what was your thinking behind not firing the flop here? i cbet alot on this flop i think.

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i usually cbet here too but i like to mix it up sometimes. my plan was to try to win a showdown unimproved but then i couldn't help taking a stab when the gutshot showed up.