16 turbo hand

[mr_tea]

Urgh, i know i played this hand like a donkey, I don't know what i was thinking. Was wondering if you guys would just have pushed all in or on the flop or PF. I figured he had a pair, top or mid on the flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t1085)
Button (t3985)
SB (t4770)
Hero (t3660)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], Q[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t675) 4[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 6[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]SB bets t800</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to t2000</font>, SB calls t1200.

Turn: (t4675) A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]SB bets t1200</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to t1235</font>, SB calls t35.

River: (t7145) A[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t7145

[playsmart]

i'm pretty sure thats atc push pf

[Little John]

push preflop.

[Kevin8423]

This is definitley not an ATC shove pf, and I think checking QJ is fine. Obviously reads matter, if the guy completes every SB then shove, and if you have shoved over his completions multiple times and he is limping again it is very bad to shove with the other stack being so short.

I like checking and shoving over his flop bet. If he calls here, no matter what he has, it is always bad for you (unless its like a lower Qx or Jx which is like never).

[mr_tea]

ya i agree kevin, i've seen way too many times donkeys Limp with low PP, then call the all in instead of just pushing into me. Or worse calling with some Ace rags on after coldcalling.

Anyone else agree with Kevin's all in on the flop? Arg i hate reviewing hands sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] makes me feel so dumb sometimes lol

[chuckpalms04]

yeah i'm shoving over on the flop there, also. no need to make it 2k, just put the maximum amt of FE into it as you can.

[Kevin8423]

Also just to make it clear, I meant to say if he calls a pf shove it is always bad for you, not if he calls a flop shove.

[ADLinden]

i think a check, push over bet is correct

[PokahPokah]

i like the way you played it pf and i would just 3 bet all in on the flop