Big fold on turn with overpair.

[veganmav]

BB is a decent straightforward small winner multitabling tag.
31/22/1.8 wtsd 40

5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (12SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero considers folding.

[mikeysong]

you do beat AKd and AQd. If someone wants to pokerstove those, otherwise I don't think it's a bad fold. tough tho : /

[Entity]

I don't consider it that big of a fold and yet I never seem to make it anymore.

Rob

[veganmav]

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I don't consider it that big of a fold and yet I never seem to make it anymore.

Rob

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since when are you not a mod?

[Entity]

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I don't consider it that big of a fold and yet I never seem to make it anymore.

Rob

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since when are you not a mod?

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6+ mo? I haven't been a mod in a long while.

[gaming_mouse]

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I don't consider it that big of a fold and yet I never seem to make it anymore.

Rob

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Really? It seems like a very easy fold to me. You are calling down?

[veganmav]

ok I will be liberal and say I think he will cold cap from AA to 88 and any AK and any AQ suited, but will muck AQ off occasionaly i think, (but definately less than 50% of time) he will cold cap 77 JTs KQs or even 98s i don't know how to take those into account exactly, since he is usualy mucking those..

anyway, someone teach me how to do a pokerstove calc please

[12ressiMorP]

personally i call this turn and reevaluate on the river. but what do i know?

[veganmav]

So even if I give him his very tightest capping range, and 3betting the flop range of 88+ and AdKd and AdQd I should call down from the turn becuase of pot odds

1,452 games 0.005 secs 290,400 games/sec

Board: 8c 2d 4d Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 74.242% 72.73% 01.52% 1056 22.00 { 88+, AdKd, AdQd }
Hand 1: 25.758% 24.24% 01.52% 352 22.00 { TcTh }





1,716 games 0.005 secs 343,200 games/sec

Board: 8c 2d 4d Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.918% 63.64% 01.28% 1092 22.00 { 88+, AQs+ }
Hand 1: 35.082% 33.80% 01.28% 580 22.00 { TcTh }

the pot is offering me 11:2 if he will fire both turn and riv and I just clal both.

so 5.5:1 and I have 25% equity.

[veganmav]

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personally i call this turn and reevaluate on the river. but what do i know?

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I don't really like this line.
I think if we are folding, the time to fold is on the turn.

Although I can't really put into words why that is best.

I guess it's cus, he is firing river near 100% of the time too, so we don't get free showdown, so we basically get almost no new info on the river.


I guess calling the turn and calling any non diamond non-A/K/Q river might be good