5NL: set faces river shove on 4-straight board

coinflip · #1 10-30-2007, 09:53 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($6.23)
Hero ($3.93)
UTG+1 ($3.78)
MP1 ($9.63)
MP2 ($3.96)
CO ($5.27)
Button ($4.82)
SB ($1.86)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.2, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP1 folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($0.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $0.7, UTG+1 raises to $1.4, Hero calls $0.70.

River: ($3.45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.13 (All-In), Hero ...

Only villain's 2nd orbit at table, no reads. On the turn I figure I'm priced in to draw to the boat even if I'm beat. Anyone just shove the turn? My limited experience with turn min-raises has generally been that it usually means a big hand trying not to lose anyone.

Is the river a standard fold with the 4-straight? What if the river is a blank and villain shoves?

toxzen · #2 10-30-2007, 10:56 PM

standard fold on river. If river were a blank I probably call cause it's 5nl.

coinflip · #3 10-31-2007, 08:03 AM

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standard fold on river. If river were a blank I probably call cause it's 5nl.

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What do you think of the turn play, and how do you read the min-raise?

ActionStan · #4 10-31-2007, 08:24 AM

The river Q is pretty meaningless. He wasn't raising you on a gutshot and he didn't limp with AK. If you called the turn I would generally call a 2/3 pot sized bet on the river especially after you checked with 2 spades on the board.

That said, I'm sticking it in on the turn when I have 10 outs against any made straight and there are a ton of 2 pair hands and draws that would raise me.

CaptVimes · #5 10-31-2007, 09:29 AM

Shove turn. This is easily two pair also. Plus like stan said you have outs to the full house.

As played I hate myself for not shoving turn and call. You only have to be good here a little less than 30% of the time to break even.