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Hand Chart...version 3. my version
In all its glory. Now we all know, hand charts are pretty general, and in victor's famous words "If you are working off a hand chart, you are not a winning player"
well, to each his own. I dont use a hand chart anymore, and I know many dont, but I made one a while back anyway. Stoxtrader says he made a hand chart once and it was helpful to him and he occasionally references it. But poker is very situational, so this chart is a generality. I tried my best to include things for many situations. (raise limpers, raise limpers w/ tight blinds..etc.) The chart comes with a legend, its on one of the tabs. This is an excel file, also. Anyway, its a little unpolished, but way better than it was. I reference 3 hand charts and had some high limiters look at it, and added stuff from discussions with them. Add in a little oreo magic, and this is what you have. Feel free to agree or disagree, we are all here to learn, and Im just trying to help. But this is way better than any other sort of hand chart you will ever find. **The blind defense section is not finished, so its pretty general...that part needs work. Anyway have add it. ***Also if someone wants to make some images of the chart and legend and post here for those without excel, feel free. Download LINK Please remember I basically consider this to be in Beta form. |
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
Thanks for this. At first glance it looks to be a great aid for us SH noobs.
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
Looks good. Should give newer players a great strart.
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
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***Also if someone wants to make some images of the chart and legend and post here for those without excel, feel free. [/ QUOTE ] This would be appreciated. |
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
Here we go. Thanks for the chart.
R = Raise C = Call CK = Check 3B = 3bet R1 = raise first in, call 1 or more limpers C2 = call if 2 or more put money in pot RF = raise if first in, fold otherwise 3B2 = 3bet lone LAG or CO, call 2 or more LR = limp vs loose opponents (raise if they CC), raise tight opponents CA = call LAG blind stealer RT = raise tight players first in, fold otherwise RL = raise first in or 1 limper, call or check otherwise R2L = raise first in or 2 limpers, call or check otherwise RP = Raise Passive/Predictable game. Less SemiBluffing. C-P = Call in passive game or where u expect to encourage limpers RL-TB - Raise Limper, Tight Blinds...otherwise limp (workable, and possibly off though) Rbt/RBT = Raise BTN 40%VPIP or less and BB 50% or less About some of the CO raises: Some of the more marginal ones marked "RT" you should only do if the Button is 40% VPIP or less and BB is 50% VPIP or less. About CO/BTN open raising. This is just a guide, the tighter the BTN or BB...the more hands u want to raise with. |
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
Kain beat me to it...
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3 Betting from the button
First - thanks for sharing the work you put into this.
Second - Wow! Are people regularly 3 betting those hands from the button? I understand that the chart is meant as a general guideline / situations vary / it depends on who's doing the raising and who's in the blinds / etc. But still: wow! Also, I might not be understanding the 3B3 and 3B2 notations correctly -- the Legend sheet says: "3B2 = 3bet lone LAG or CO, call 2 or more". So, I guess 3B3 means 3bet if there are 2 people in the hand already; call if more? But at the extreme end of the scale, the button is 3-betting: 44/55 (maybe down to 22?) A4s (maybe only A7s?) A8 K9s KQ QTs JTs I'm re-raising many of those hand against an aggressive raiser, but usually tossing the unsuited aces (up to AT/AJ depending on opponents), the low suited aces, most of the suited kings, and the low pocket pairs. And I'm around 24/21 ($VPIP/PFR) from the button... Third - hmm looking at the rest of the chart more closely, it's a lot looser and more aggressive than I play (and I think more so than the earlier s/h charts too). Any idea what preflop stats this chart translates into? |
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
I'm wondering what's your VPiP/PFR filtered for 5-6 handed?
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Re: Hand Chart...version 3. my version
Didn't look at it close, so I don't have anything to debate about it, but at a glance it looks like you put some serious time into this. Thanks for sharing it
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