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100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
I'm a long time reader, first time hand history poster, comments on all streets appreciated.In the first hand, the guy is a regular, fairly taggish, approx 18/9/1.6 over ~500 hands, he views me as tight/solid
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $250.90 Hero (BB): $196.10 UTG: $120.70 UTG+1: $115.60 MP: $52.50 CO: $94.00 BTN: $163.15 Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players) 4 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $2.50 Flop: ($7.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, BTN calls $7.00 Turn: ($21.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $40.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $140.45</font> Good or Bad? hand 2 - no reads Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $138.60 BB: $99.00 UTG: $165.45 UTG+1: $32.35 MP1: $98.50 MP2: $109.60 MP3: $100.00 CO: $96.45 Hero (BTN): $85.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players) UTG calls $1.00, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.00, MP3 folds Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, UTG calls $16.00 Turn: ($48.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $18.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00 River: ($84.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $21.00</font>, Hero calls $21.00 Felt like I couldnt get away from this hand for this cheap |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
Hand1: I would fold 97s preflop because the suited connectors sucks in
short-handed raised pots. Also you are OOP whole hand. As played: I would check the flop. If villain cbets, I would check-raise him to get pot down now. If he dont fold, I will check/fold the hand down. Also I think the check-folding on the flope is fine but beting flop - I dont like it. Hand2: I would raise more in preflop - 6$ or so. Villain flop betting OOP looks so strange. I would reraise the flop to 12-14. Probably I would shove the turn. Correct me, if I am giving bad advices. |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
Hand 1: Depending on the fact if the button is frequent raising marginal hands from the button I might threebet this to 12 and go from there (bet flop, bet/fold turn). As played I don't mind your bet on the flop and on the turn, although I would bet smaller amounts, if you have the best hand he will also fold for smaller amounts; I mean this can't really be considered as valuebets because we don't have clue about villains hand. I would probably just call villains minraise on the turn though and see if I can get a nine, T or 8 on the river and evaluate there... I don't think villain will fold hands that you beat after his raise if you are behind, which you probably are. Check-raising the flop could also be an idea, but then you probably have to check/fold on the turn if called which looks really weak to me; I think your hand is a little to weak for a check-raise...
Hand 2: looks like a set to me or AA... I think villain is betting the turn small because he is somewhat scared about your flushopportunity.. It would be a really weird line to take with a nine... River is giving you huge odds but it looks like a valuebet, just [censored] up... Don't know... |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
Hand 1:
Flop lead is bad because you don't give him a chance to c-bet worse hands. As played, WTF are you doing on the turn? Hand 2 looks ok. |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
I don't like the re-raise in hand 1. Villain raised on the button so he could easily have you beat with two pair or even a straight. The only thing you can beat is a flush draw.
I think you played hand 2 fine without having any reads, although judging by your "felt like you couldn't get away from it" comment, you ended up losing to a flush. |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
I was thinking of this picture when looking at the turn action in hand 1:
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
i like both hands, they are played fine.
you're repping 2p or a set in hand 1, and if he's a tag, he's going to be laying this down quite often for this to be profitable. regardless, you have a bunch of outs anyways. |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
On hand one, I felt like he was a loose raiser with position, i probably shoulda popped him back preflop if i wasn't going to fold... but I didnt... I just felt that leading was better than c/c, and playing in the dark, because he may give me a benefit of the doubt, the min raise on the turn perplexed me, I can't imagine any hands that can min raise there on that board... so i 3 bet... I think this is a big flaw in my game - overaggression, which is why i post this, i felt as though i could make a huge hand range fold w/the 3bet there...
hand 2, he showed down sixes full |
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
Hand 1 is so ambiguous to me... And this is a convoluted sentiment - I don't think I know where to draw the line between what I'm representing based on what I think he has. On the flop his call does help me define his range, I would've expected him to raise any PP's, and PP's turned sets, and any straight draws for fold equity as well... I was confused on turn, and in retrospect, i think if i lead that turn representing 2p, overpair, set or straight, I have to either 3 bet or fold to the min raise...How can i tell better when i should throw in the towel as far as bluffs go in a situation like this?
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Re: 100NL Am I out of Line here? 9Ts 3bet
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I was thinking of this picture when looking at the turn action in hand 1: [/ QUOTE ] I liked the one with the dog better, oh well.. |
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