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Old 08-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Boiterbunt Boiterbunt is offline
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Default [SH NL100]QQ on drawy flop, 160BB deep

I played this hand today vs. a LAGgy (32/25/3) multitabling regular who I clinched with quite a lot. Two hands ago I won quite a big pot of him when I called his 3-bet in position with KK and took it down on the turn.

I really don't have a clue how to go from here vs. him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($95.50)
SB ($45.55)
BB ($81.35)
UTG ($12.45)
Hero ($231.35)
CO ($161.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $30</font>, Hero ...
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: [SH NL100]QQ on drawy flop, 160BB deep

I think that if you're willing to do anything other than fold here, it's with the intention of going all in. Are you willing to felt your overpair against this guy?
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: [SH NL100]QQ on drawy flop, 160BB deep

nl noob grunch

deep stacks, OOP, overpair on a drawy board, aggressive opponent -- these are the components of my nl nightmares.

our hand is too strong to fold against this opponent. he could easily be making this raise with top pair, a variety of flush/straight/combo draws, or nothing. (of course, he could also have a set, two pair, or a bigger overpair.)

calling creates a pot of ~$70 and leaves us with ~$200 (~3x pot) vs villain's ~$125 (~2x pot).

3betting commits our stack with no further information about villain's hand.

i think i prefer a stop-n-go here (a play i never use in LHE). if a favorable card comes off, we can donk and see what happens. if something brutal comes off (say the T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]) we can get away from our hand cheaply.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: [SH NL100]QQ on drawy flop, 160BB deep

I think call and donk safe turn is best action.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: [SH NL100]QQ on drawy flop, 160BB deep

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($95.50)
SB ($45.55)
BB ($81.35)
UTG ($12.45)
Hero ($231.35)
CO ($161.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $30</font>, Hero calls

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[b]Turn [$69.50] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="#CC3333">Hero ...
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