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Old 01-14-2006, 04:11 PM
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Default KTs with fish and Almost TAG

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PreFlop: <font color="blue">HERO</font> is MP with <font color="blue">T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (10 Players)
2 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> <font color="darkgreen">raises</font>, 1 <font color="darkred">fold</font>, MP3 calls, 2 <font color="darkred">folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls,

Flop: (8.00 SB) <font color="black">8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]</font> <font color="red">3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]</font> <font color="blue">2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (4 Players)
SB <font color="green">bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="blue">HERO</font> calls, MP3 calls,

Turn: (6.00 BB) <font color="blue">Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]</font> (4 Players)
SB <font color="green">bets</font>, BB <font color="darkred">folds</font>, <font color="blue">HERO</font> ???? MP3 still to act

SB is an almost TAG and is aggressive but not overly so. I would figure him as a young guy that has read 1-2 books. He plays fair but over plays his hands sometimes. TAF 1.7

BB is no read

MP3 is uberfish. Doesnt raise without a great hand, bets 2 pair or better generally.

My gut was saying to raise since SB would bet here with A8s, 99, 77. Raising would increase my chances to win the hand and maybe force passive MP3 and semi-TAG to fold. I figured I had about 12 outs with the flush draw and the K or T. Didnt figure the Q hit anyone the way this played out. MP3 calling means pair or draw that simple.

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Old 01-14-2006, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: KTs with fish and Almost TAG

Preflop raise with KTs from mp1 looks borderline to me. Too me, a turn raise looks bad here, but I'm just starting to work on turn semi-bluff raises.
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Old 01-14-2006, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: KTs with fish and Almost TAG

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Preflop raise with KTs from mp1 looks borderline to me.

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This is borderline, but if you don't make raises like this every so often it becomes too easy for a good player to key in on your raising range. In truth, I don't really like it here because we have a loose/passive yet to act after us, but that's not to say I'd never do it.
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:09 PM
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Preflop raise with KTs from mp1 looks borderline to me.

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This is borderline, but if you don't make raises like this every so often it becomes too easy for a good player to key in on your raising range. In truth, I don't really like it here because we have a loose/passive yet to act after us, but that's not to say I'd never do it.

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True. If the players behind us are tight enough, this could be good. If they are aggressive and 3-bet frequently, it sucks.
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: KTs with fish and Almost TAG

2 tight in the blinds and 2 loose.
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Why the raise.

The reason why I did the raise is because I was beating the crap out of the table being at $140. People were starting to fold to my PF raises. I had about 3 decent players here. Normally this is a toss. Dont like KT.
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Old 01-14-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: KTs with fish and Almost TAG

This is very read dependant. How loose is MP3? Will he fold an 8? Is SB capable of folding 99? 77?

Without any clear reads on this I just call.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:06 PM
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I would raise the flop here to see the rest of the cards for free.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:19 PM
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I would raise the flop here to see the rest of the cards for free.

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Raising this flop at 2/4 is bad. No one is folding a pair.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:26 PM
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I would raise the flop here to see the rest of the cards for free.

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Raising this flop at 2/4 is bad. No one is folding a pair.

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And I agree. Plus getting 3-betted would really blow. Well, raising this any where is bad.
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