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Old 03-15-2006, 10:47 PM
DWarrior DWarrior is offline
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Default AK flops TPTK 100nl

Villain is 34/3/2.43 ~100 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG+1 ($127)
Hero ($103.85)
MP2 ($103.03)
MP3 ($68.99)
CO ($152.44)
Button ($83.55)
SB ($95.70)
BB ($125.28)
UTG ($21.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($7) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.5</font>, SB calls $6.50.

Turn: ($20) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $30</font>, Hero ?

What's my line here? Should I have checked behind on that turn and valued the river?

Results Below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
Final Pot: $65
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

That bad?
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

Preflop you should raise a lil more i usually like to raise 4 or 5, as far as the turn goes, it depends on reads, if hes solid or not done anything wacky im folding, hes not raising you with anything less then two pair here. There isnt many cards in the deck that would help you against a set or two pair, so you dont really have odds on calling. Since you do have position i might call and see what he does on the river. If its a less then half the pot i usaully go for a call.
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

First off I would open for a little more - $4 would be standard for me.

It looks like he went out of his way to wait until the turn to pop you. And this is after you have twice told him that you have an ace.

Unless I have some amazing read on this cat... I'm gonzo.
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

In the best case scenario, this is a very thin call on the turn. This is when villain has something like A4 and you have 3 Kings, 3 Jacks and 3 Nines to beat him.

Add to this the fact that villain will be able to see plain as day whether his two-pair got counterfeited or whether he boated up and play accordingly. So, even after all of this, we will still not stack villain when we improve, but he will double through us or fold when we do improve.

Bottom line is your hand is either good or it isn't and that is the decision you have to make since the implied odds aren't present, it doesn't really matter what the river card is.
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

Raise more preflop. I think this is a pretty standard fold on the turn as well.
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:58 AM
spanshcastlemagc spanshcastlemagc is offline
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

looks like he really wants a call, id play all streets the same, looks like 2 pair or better, unless hes an idiot id fold
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

A lot of you guys said to raise more, I really just did my standard raise of 3xBB+1 for every limper. At $25NL and $50NL my standard was 4xBB and then 3xBB+1 for every limper after a limper (so on $50NL I'd open for $2 and still raise to $2 after 1 limper). I think here 3xBB is a decent open at these levels though, unless the table gets really crazy.
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

Well, you told what your hand was and he check-raised you on the turn. You are either way behind or villain is a playa. Folding is not bad because your stack is going in on an unimproved river and losing a stack with TPTK is bad.
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: AK flops TPTK 100nl

I usually raise slightly more, but some people do $3 and that's fine.

I'd check behind on the turn....there are no real draws other than a possible gutshot for broadway...no flush possible. Check behind on the turn for pot control and hopefully induce a river bluff.
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