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Old 10-31-2007, 08:46 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default I whiff on the flop

so lets try the turn instead.

villain is IPray2God, maybe 2p2. not sure, seems decent


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UTG: $36.80
CO: $105
BTN: $163.90
SB: $85.35
Hero (BB): $168.85

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>

flop check was kinda a surprise by him as I had intended to c/r him. I think if it was any other card I'd have just led out, but seeing how its soooo likely he'll try to bluff it I felt like c/r was a good option. plus if he actually has a king, he'll consider folding it on the turn a lore more often than if I just donk into him.

thoughts?

kinda trying to mix up my play more as I feel like the last few weeks I've just been a betting station as a result of too much grinding.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: I whiff on the flop

I'd reraise preflop. I think a turn lead is fine, but the c/r is OK, too, because he doesn't have a K very often IMO. I like a flop lead a little more than a c/r, too, because when called we're going to be deep and OOP. I'd rather b/3bet here I think.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:59 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: I whiff on the flop

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I'd reraise preflop. I think a turn lead is fine, but the c/r is OK, too, because he doesn't have a K very often IMO. I like a flop lead a little more than a c/r, too, because when called we're going to be deep and OOP. I'd rather b/3bet here I think.

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yeah I didnt 3bet pf cause we're both kinda deep.

flop lead is something I didnt really consider at the time. u really wanna shove the flop here 160bbs deep?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: I whiff on the flop

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I'd reraise preflop. I think a turn lead is fine, but the c/r is OK, too, because he doesn't have a K very often IMO. I like a flop lead a little more than a c/r, too, because when called we're going to be deep and OOP. I'd rather b/3bet here I think.

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yeah I didnt 3bet pf cause we're both kinda deep.

flop lead is something I didnt really consider at the time. u really wanna shove the flop here 160bbs deep?

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1. we're deep so we can rr more often
2. what are you hoping to accomplish when we c/r 1) get shoved on 2) calls and the turn bricks?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: I whiff on the flop

IŽd def c/r this flop, usually they will bet/fold in this spot.
Also, I really think you should 3 bet this preflop as your range is probably ahead of his.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: I whiff on the flop

I like the way you've played it this far.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: I whiff on the flop

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I like the way you've played it this far.

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orange,

thoughts on bet/3bet on the flop?

not really sure when to do this b/c its just not something I do very often. in my experience nobody folds overpairs like ever so you're just taking the worst of it a lot of the time.
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